Posts by aqwsed12345

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Is the salutation ... "Are you in The Truth?" ... still in use?

by Lion Cask in

the title is the question.

when i was actively studying with the witnesses back in the mid 70's i was often asked that question.

i guess it was a reflection of the crowd i was hanging around with and the fact that i was a friendly at the time, but on reflection i haven't been asked the question for eons.

aqwsed12345

Watchtower Dictionary says:

" come into the truth, to To become a Jehovah’s Witness. “I came into the truth in 1991. When did you come into the truth?”"
" in the truth slang Associated with the Watchtower organization. Examples: “I’ve been in the truth ten years; how long have you been in the truth?” “I was born in the truth.”"
" truth , the The JW organization, as in, “I’ve been in the truth since 1981.”"

This very diehard JW dictionary says:

true Christian: Synonymous with ``one of {Jehovah's Witnesses}'' among people {in the Truth}. The implication is that the one referred to is {doing well}. Of course there are many {unbelievers} who have a different opinion. <<A faithful, hospitable widow in Canada was raising four young daughters as true Christians.>> [w95 10/15 32] She was raising them to become Jehovah's Witnesses.

true religion, true worship: The worship of Jehovah as outlined by Jehovah himself in the Bible, and not by men, and carried out by his {organization}, both the heavenly and visible parts. (Joh 4:23)

truth, Truth: That which is actually so; it is never at odds with itself. When spelled with a capital (in mid-sentence), it refers to the full body of revealed Truth about God and his purposes as explained in his Word, and taught by his{organization}. The practice of consistently spelling it with a capital when referring to the Truth in the sense defined here may be my own, and is modeled after Acts 9:2 and other verses that show the early disciples used the phrase ``The Way'' to refer to true Christianity. (Note that The is capitalized, as it appears all three times in NW.
NOTE: The scriptural and divinely inspired name for the true worshipers of Jehovah, {Jehovah's Witnesses}, is a recent acquisition, seen in retrospect to have been given to satisfy a need to be distinct from other groups who likewise profess to be Christian. Thus when outsiders ask us what our religion is, we quickly reply: ``We're Jehovah's Witnesses!'' Under such circumstances it would not be adequate to say: ``We are Christians.'' A Roman Catholic or Baptist might give the same reply. Nor would it be meaningful to say: ``I'm in the Truth.'' However, inside the organization, among one another, we refer to our religion as ``the Truth'', because that is what it is. <<How long have you been in the Truth?>>

in the Truth

The state of being a dedicated, baptized servant of Jehovah. <<How long have you been in the Truth?>> <<I have no fleshly relatives who are in the Truth.>> (See also {Truth}.)

NOTE: The phrase does not intend to imply anything about how well a person might be doing in the Truth. <<So you've been in the Truth for ten years, huh? But how long has the Truth been in you?>> An admittedly cheeky question.

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What is "the Kingdom"?

by Darth Eowyn in

i have been lurking for a couple of months and decided to join because i wanted to get further information.. i am not a jw, ex jw, or even considering becoming a jw.

i am a fairly devout, practicing catholic.

two weeks ago, a couple of jw publishers stopped by to discuss their schtick.

aqwsed12345

Dear Butterflyleia85, please read this:

"There is One Mediator" (1 Timothy 2:5): Does This Rule Out "Mini-Mediators"?

Hebrews 11:16 explicitly say that saved people under Old Testament period go to heaven (not when they died, but when Christ took them to heaven after his resurrection), but here is an article about this question, please read this also:

No Heavenly Hope for the Old Testament Saints?

Praying to the Saints

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What is a false prophet?

by Spade in

if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

aqwsed12345

Watchtower Dictionary says:

prophet noun 1. Any of the Old Testament characters, such as Ezekiel and Jeremiah, who acted as God’s spokesmen, performed miracles, and foretold future events. 2. The Jehovah’s Witness organization today, in its claimed role as God’s spokesman or channel of communication. 3. A role the JW organization says it has never claimed for itself.

NOTE: Although definitions #2 and #3 contradict each other, both must be accepted and believed. The organization employs definition #2 when asserting its authority over members and definition #3 when trying to escape responsibility for failed predictions.

a prophet yet not a prophet

In a classic example of Orwellian doublethink Jehovah’s Witnesses learn to think of their organization as God’s prophet and, at the same time, not a prophet at all. These contradictory notions, both of which must be believed simultaneously, are reflected in these quotes from The Watchtower:

“Whom has God actually used as his prophet ?… Jehovah’s witnesses are deeply grateful today that the plain facts show that God has been pleased to use them.”—January 15, 1959, pages 40-41

“Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel’s work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the ‘prophet’ commissioned by Jehovah… these followers of Christ embraced the name ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’… ”—April 1, 1972, pages 198-199

“Jehovah’s Witnesses… do not claim infallibility or perfection. Neither are they inspired prophets.”—May 15, 1976, page 297

(For several similar quotes see Index of Watchtower Errors pages 112-113.)

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Article about the JWs (German speaking)?

by ex-Special Pioneer in

jw
friends

glaubensgemeinschaftnein zu zeugen jehovasrainer wehaus, aktualisiert am 20.01.2011 um 17:10 uhreine zeugin jehovas verteilt "wachturm" und "erwachet" foto: hornersiehe auch vatikan.

johannes paul ii.

wird am 1. mai seliggesprochen kirchen.

aqwsed12345

http://bitflow.dyndns.org/german/LotharGassmann/Zeugen_Jehovas_1996.pdf

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What is "the Kingdom"?

by Darth Eowyn in

i have been lurking for a couple of months and decided to join because i wanted to get further information.. i am not a jw, ex jw, or even considering becoming a jw.

i am a fairly devout, practicing catholic.

two weeks ago, a couple of jw publishers stopped by to discuss their schtick.

aqwsed12345

Butterflyleia85 cited John 18:36 from the NWT as "My kingdom is no part of this world...". But this is just a mistranslation to justify their antipathy to the non-JW world. Jesus only said that here, that his kingdom is not of the world, so that is transcendent, and did not say anything about the JW-like "not part of the world". You can check the greek it only say: ek tou kosmou which means: of the world. The word "part" is not in the greek, that is only a Watctower insertion.

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What is "the Kingdom"?

by Darth Eowyn in

i have been lurking for a couple of months and decided to join because i wanted to get further information.. i am not a jw, ex jw, or even considering becoming a jw.

i am a fairly devout, practicing catholic.

two weeks ago, a couple of jw publishers stopped by to discuss their schtick.

aqwsed12345

Dear InterestedOne, I suppose you will be interested in a Catholic Bible Commentary:

Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary, 1859 edition.

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Are there any Watchtower prophesies that came true?

by TTWSYF in

i know that the failed predictions of amageddon for 1914, 1918, 1925, during wwii, and 1975 have been well documented here and other places, but are there any [documented] 'prophesies' that actually came true?.

dc.

aqwsed12345

Watchtower Dictionary says:

prophet noun 1. Any of the Old Testament characters, such as Ezekiel and Jeremiah, who acted as God’s spokesmen, performed miracles, and foretold future events. 2. The Jehovah’s Witness organization today, in its claimed role as God’s spokesman or channel of communication. 3. A role the JW organization says it has never claimed for itself.

NOTE: Although definitions #2 and #3 contradict each other, both must be accepted and believed. The organization employs definition #2 when asserting its authority over members and definition #3 when trying to escape responsibility for failed predictions.

a prophet yet not a prophet

In a classic example of Orwellian doublethink Jehovah’s Witnesses learn to think of their organization as God’s prophet and, at the same time, not a prophet at all. These contradictory notions, both of which must be believed simultaneously, are reflected in these quotes from The Watchtower:

“Whom has God actually used as his prophet ?… Jehovah’s witnesses are deeply grateful today that the plain facts show that God has been pleased to use them.”—January 15, 1959, pages 40-41

“Thus this group of anointed followers of Jesus Christ, doing a work in Christendom paralleling Ezekiel’s work among the Jews, were manifestly the modern-day Ezekiel, the ‘prophet’ commissioned by Jehovah… these followers of Christ embraced the name ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses’… ”—April 1, 1972, pages 198-199

“Jehovah’s Witnesses… do not claim infallibility or perfection. Neither are they inspired prophets.”—May 15, 1976, page 297

(For several similar quotes see Index of Watchtower Errors pages 112-113.)

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Is there a biblical 1914?

by AiAi in

i have noticed that people that hold no faith in the bible can easily find reasons not to believe it is god's word.

likewise, i have found that when one does hold faith in the bible they can continue to believe it against any contrary evidence.

the torah not being written by moses is not a big deal to some, neither are the two creation accounts in genises.

aqwsed12345

Were the Early Christians Jehovah’s Witnesses?

http://www.cephas-library.com/jw_faith_of_our_fathers_1.html

http://www.cephas-library.com/jw_faith_of_our_fathers_2.html

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What is the Trinity?

by pirata in

from this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204837/2/if-you-could-ask-one-question-to-an-active-jw-to-get-them-to-open-their-mind-about-their-beliefs-what-would-it-be.

dontplaceliterature re: if you could ask one question to an active jw to get them to open their mind about their beliefs, what would it be?posted ~ 14 hours ago (1/18/2011) .

post 63 of 65. since 12/28/2010.

aqwsed12345

The Doctrine of the Trinity

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Is there a biblical 1914?

by AiAi in

i have noticed that people that hold no faith in the bible can easily find reasons not to believe it is god's word.

likewise, i have found that when one does hold faith in the bible they can continue to believe it against any contrary evidence.

the torah not being written by moses is not a big deal to some, neither are the two creation accounts in genises.

aqwsed12345

...Russel did not calculate WW1, because his calculations lead to October of 1914, but the World War did not start at October, but at summer of 1914... :-)