Windy!!!
I have missed you.. where have you been? Long time no hear :-)
Peace to you all!
Aaron
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Greetings loved ones :)
by kes152 inmuch crying, much complaining, much demanding, much irritation all directed against the holy one of israel, and our lord jah-eshua the mischa-jah has called your acts to mind.
"today if you people hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as at meri'bah as in the day of massah in the wilderness, when your fathers put me to the test.
they themselves saw all the things i did, and they themselves examined me.. for forty years i kept feeling a loathing toward that generation, and so i said, "they are a people that go astray in their hearts, they have not come to know me and they have not come to know my ways," and so i swore with an oath in my wrath, "they shall not enter into my place of rest.".
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I'm being DF'ed...
by email inthis is my first post on this board even though i have been lurking for a looong time.... .
i have just being told that the judicial committee has decided to disfellowship me and that i have a week to appeal if i decide to do so.
the reason: "apostasy".
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kes152
Dearest email,
May you have peace!
These are just some scriptures the holy spirit wanted to share with you, concerning your treatment.
The witnesses say "do not associate, eat with, or say a greeting to the disfellowshipped."
Jesus, however, ate with a man and associated himself with a man who called himself a 'brother' but was an extortioner, a thief, a greedy person, etc. John 12:2-7
A man was disfellowshipped for putting faith in Jesus as opposed to believing that the Pharisees as the ones "dispensing food at the proper time." John 9:22, 30-35
Jesus left us a model that we should follow his foot steps closely. So if we follow in his foot steps and he disfellowshipped no one, how can we disfellowship anyone? 1 Peter 2:21
"Jehovah" warns Israel's 'chieftain' (WT identifies them as elders) to stop disfellowshipping his people. Ezekiel 45:9 "That is enough of you, O chieftains of Israel!' "Remove the violence and the despoiling, and do justice and righteousness themselves. Lift your expropriations off my people, is the utterance of the Soverign Lord Jehovah." Expropriations are "acts of expulsions/expelling/disfellowshipping." See NWT Ref. Bible footnote.
Did they listen?
"And there will be arms that will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will actually profane the sanctuary, the stronghold (who is Christ.. our Rock), and remove the continual sacrifice (the bread and wine.. observed daily). And they will certainly put in its place the disgusting thing that is causing desolation." Daniel 11:31
Does not the organization with its Faithful and Discreet Slave cause desolation by disfellowshipping and outcasting its members for not 'agreeing' with it? Truly a disgusting thing. Those of you who catch sight of it, flee to the mountains. Matthew 24:15, 16
Our Master forewarned us that if we listen to the truth, "Men will expel (disfellowship) you from the synagogues." John 16:2
Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share in her sins and receive part of her plagues..." Revelation 18:4
Peace to you,
Aaron
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Greetings loved ones :)
by kes152 inmuch crying, much complaining, much demanding, much irritation all directed against the holy one of israel, and our lord jah-eshua the mischa-jah has called your acts to mind.
"today if you people hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as at meri'bah as in the day of massah in the wilderness, when your fathers put me to the test.
they themselves saw all the things i did, and they themselves examined me.. for forty years i kept feeling a loathing toward that generation, and so i said, "they are a people that go astray in their hearts, they have not come to know me and they have not come to know my ways," and so i swore with an oath in my wrath, "they shall not enter into my place of rest.".
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kes152
Much crying, much complaining, much demanding, much irritation all directed against the Holy One of Israel, and our Lord Jah-Eshua the Mischa-Jah has called your acts to mind. He has said:
"Today if you people hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as at Meri'bah as in the day of Massah in the wilderness, when your fathers put me to the test. They themselves saw all the things I did, and they themselves examined me.
For forty years I kept feeling a loathing toward that generation, And so I said, "They are a people that go astray in their hearts, they have not come to know me and they have not come to know my ways," and so I swore with an oath in my wrath, "They shall not enter into my place of rest."
We are advised accordingly:
"See that you do not beg off from him who is speaking.... For if they did not escape who begged off from him who was giving warning upon the earth, much more shall we if we turn away from him who is speaks from the heavens."
Therefore, "Cleanse your hands you sinners of ALL your unrighteousness and do NOT hide anything. Purify your hearts and do good and not bad." For he that is honest and is without deciet will procure praise for himself at the revelation of JahEshua and all his holy angels from the heavens.
May you have peace!
Aaron
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GOOD NEWS
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe gospel of salvation -- the good news of god!
all scriptures below are from the "literal translation of the holy bible" (go here for information about this bible translation: http://www.kconline.com/paul/litv/litv.htm ).
you can see clearly below that the watchtower society is not teaching the true gospel of christ:.
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kes152
When do we get this "eternal life?" When do we start "living forever?" Can we have eternal life now, or do we have to wait until the "end" to find out if we're going to live forever or not?
Peace to you,
Aaron
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two questions about Jesus
by showme intwo questions about jesus.
the first one might seem a little silly.
but i was told by a jw that jesus had short hair.
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kes152
Dearest Showme,
The Son of God grew up in the city of Nazareth, in order that the scripture may be fulfilled in him saying, "He shall be called a nazarene." (Matthew 2:23; Isaiah 11:1). Nazareth is the city of Nazarites (ones given to God from among the sons of Israel). The vow of the Nazarites is recorded for you in Numbers 6:1-4. Special attention in verse 5 which says, " All the days of his vow of separation there shall NO razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in which he separates himself to Jehovah, he shall be holy; he shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow LONG."
When his days of separation are fulfilled, he shall approach the tent of meeting and carry out his obligation to Jah. He shall have his head shaved and offerings made according to the Law (Numbers 6:13-21).
Thomas said regarding his death upon a tree, "Unless I see in his hands the print of the NAILS, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe. " (John 20:25) If He was killed on a "stake/pole" then how can there be "nails" in his hand? Should not "one nail" suffice as is depicted in the Watchtower magazines?
Peace to you,
Aaron
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The Christ of the Bible VS. The Christ of the WTS.
by ServantofIAM injesus is lord.
for example, isaiah wrote about jehovah in isaiah 6:1-6, and john, in john 12:31-41 says isaiah saw jesus glory and spoke of him.
attributes of christ show that he is god.
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kes152
Dearest Servant,
you said: You see, you and I both believe that Jesus Christ was a perfect man
In this you both are incorrect. Our Lord was born in the flesh.. born in SIN.. although he himself (in his SPIRIT) was "without sin." He came in SINFUL flesh, and condemned sin IN the flesh. And AFTER he had been "made PERFECT" he became responsible for everlasting salvation to ALL those obeying him.
Hebrews 5:8, 9
Romans 8:3
1 Peter 2:22
Peace to you,
Aaron
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Does God Understand?
by cyrano inwould god understand?
in nazi germany, a german woman hides 3 little jewish children in her basement.
a gestapo lieutenant comes to the door and asks if she knows where the same three children are?
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kes152
God is a God of MERCY and forgiveness. So my Father CERTAINLY understands. He said "I want mercy and not sacrifice." One thing I must mention, you misquoted a scripture that said "Do not lie." There is no scripture against lying. The scripture originally said "You must not bear false witness AGAINST your brother." This is what our Adversary did when has no truth in him. He bore FALSE witness against God and against man. He is one who bears false witness because his father is ALSO a liar (one who bears false witness against his brother). Peace to you! Aaron
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JWs In Same Mess as First Century Christians
by IslandWoman inthe christian greek scriptures are full of "the end will come soon" rhetoric.
they hoped to be reunited with each other after death or to be among those paul spoke of who would in effect escape death altogether by being raised to the heavens at the coming of the lord.. they waited and waited.
they sacrificed much and died horrific deaths.
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kes152
Dearest IW, The portions you read in the "Greek Scriptures" due mention the 'end' of times.. but it is not mentioned often. The reason for this is because that was not the focus of the true faith, nor was it the 'motivation' by which our brothers displayed their faith among men. The Revelation was NOT a revelation devoted solely to how the 'end' would come.. it was "a revelation of Jesus Christ AND of the things that must shortly take place." This was given to John (which the Catholic Church divided into two books) to be shared with the slaves of Christ. The Revelation is indeed available for all to read, but not all (as you stated yourself included) understand it. It was written FOR those to whom our Lord appointed beforehand. The whole focus and motivation of the true faith in our Lord Jesus was the free gift that is available to "anyone asking, anyone seeking, anyone wishing, anyone knocking." It is the free gift of holy spirit and anyone who drinks such spirit will INSTANTLY receive everlasting life. This indeed was GOOD NEWS and it spread rapidly. Religious men were JEALOUS of the free gift because it was not granted them to offer it, nor did they want to compromise their religious beliefs in order to recieve it. They LOVED the glory of "men" more than the glory of God. They did not want to be disfellowshipped from the synagogue and be spoken badly against by their fellow Pharisees. So, these men attempted to silence the disciples by any means necessary. The free gift was causing people to stop attending the religious services because they were able to hear directly from God through Christ for themselves. They did not need "men" to teach them any longer. This activity was hurting their church... as well as their income. So these men lashed out against them, persecuted them, flogged them, and told them to no longer speak to them on the basis of the name of Jesus (not "Jehovah"). The teaching was also exposing the religious leaders' BLOODGUILT that they had against the Son of Jah. They could not handle this so they did their BEST to stop this teaching from spreading all throughout their country. The disciples were NOT "living for the end" as Jehovah's Witnesses do.. they were living to keep offering the free gift of holy spirit and share the everlasting life that they themselves received... for FREE! And the invitation STILL goes out to "anyone wishing, anyone asking, anyone hearing anyone knocking." The holy spirit is the free gift of God offered by the hand of Jesus Christ our Lord. Anyone who is desiring of it will be given it. And through that holy spirit.. you will be taught ALL things so that you will need NO MAN to be teaching you anything at all. Revelation 22:17 1 John 2:27
Peace to you, AaronEdited by - kes152 on 21 June 2002 17:35:13
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Does God Really Care?
by Undecided ini'm wondering about god lately.
is he really in touch with the earth at all?
how much trouble would it be for him to bring a rain in colorado to stop the fires and save the houses of those people?
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kes152
Dearest Ken P.
Its been a while... how have you been? I understand where you are coming from on your posts, and here is what I have been granted to share with you.
you asked:
Is he really in touch with the earth at all?
Yes, he is, he sent his Son to BEG the sons of Adam (us) to listen to his voice. He has called out.. and KEEPS calling out to us directly "from the heavens." Those who hear his voice and follow after his voice, are cared for by Him.
Proverbs 1:21-24
Hebrews 12:25
Hebrews 1:2How much trouble would it be for him to bring a rain in Colorado to stop the fires and save the houses of those people?
Not any trouble at all, for "even the storms and wind obey him." But, when he has warned and warns man of the coming doom... why do they not listen? Why do they contend and say "there is NO danger.. we DON'T have to listen to you!" Would they learn from their disobedience if they consistently REFUSE to heed the warnings? Many 'men' have to learn the hard way and have disasters approach them in order for them to realize that they DO need to 'listen.'
Proverbs 1:24-32
Oh, well, if He's going to kill them all, I don't guess it makes any difference anyway
Who said God was going to do the killing? God is Life.. he makes the "dead" alive. There is "another" who desires the Death of men.. he is the Father of our Adversary. He is the One who is looking forward to consuming the life out of man.. whom Satan gathers for that One.
Genesis 1:2-4
John 1:3, 4What you are saying is just quelch your brain, have faith in something that can't be explained and be happy?
God is not asking for us to do that. He is offering us "evident DEMONSTRATIONS of the realities" so that we may put faith in Him. Anyone who beholds these realities and puts faith in the thing 'heard' will safeguard themselves for everlasting life. They will not only know.. but FEEL God's care for them through the hand of the Son of God.
Psalms 40:6
Romans 10:17
Hebrews 1:1, 2Didn't he say we were made in his image? What did that mean?
We WERE made in God's image orginally. Our parents were made without spot.. without sin.. without defect. They not only possesed all of God's qualites but also his own likeness .. spirit. It was not until Adam wanted to "know BAD" and partook of knowledge that did not yet belong to him, that we no longer existed in God's image. Adam sold us into slavery to sin and Death. We ceased to be in God's image and came to be in Adam's image, one of sin, disobedience, rebelliousness, and Death. Anyone who accepts the free gift of holy spirit will eventually SHED off Adam's image and be made into God's image.
Genesis 3:22
1 Corinthians 15:49Why does he want his servants killed and persecuted, I don't understand why this would please him so much, even his own son had to die to please him. How does this show so much love?
God does not WANT his servants to be persecuted. He wants his servants to love him.. and listen to the voice of his Son. Since God loves the righteous as well as the wicked.. as a token of his MERCY to the wicked.. he sends his righteous ones to speak in his behalf to the wicked. The righteous are brothers to the wicked.. the same as Cain was a brother to Abel. Although Cain HATED Abel.. Abel still LOVED Cain. The righteous are the same. They LOVE the wicked and want them to recieve everlasting life. They love the wicked to the extent that they "surrender their soul in behalf of their brother." For no man has greater love than that. Since the righteous love their wicked brothers to that degree.. they are willing.. out of love.. to be persecuted and killed by their brothers if it means their brothers will receive an opportunity to inherit everlasting life. Such a love that ALREADY exists in God's servants.. pleases God well.
Maybe the devil does it all, but can't God control the devil?
True.. it is the Adversary that incites the wicked ones to HATE and persecute their brothers who love them. God can indeed control the Devil, but if the wicked ones WANT to be controlled by the Devil and hate their brothers.. God grants them what they ASK for ("Anything you should ASK in my name.. this I will do").
My wife looks at me and says I had better be careful questioning God, or I will be beyond hope of forgiviness.
God has set a time in which he will sit in judgement and answer ALL mankind for his actions that he has done in the earth. Men will KNOW why God did the things he did in the earth and men will know that the tiny voice that they purposely been ignoring was the very voice of the Son of God.. and that the people that were SENT to these men to bear witness to these things.. were reviled, persecuted and even killed by THEIR hands. In this day ALL men will stand NAKED before the judgement seat with nothing to answer God. Ken, your questioning God will NOT get you something beyond forgiveness. There is only one sin that does that.. and you have not committed that sin.
Please ask... and I will tell you according to what I hear. Perhaps you will begin to put faith in the Son of God and the Holy One of Israel and need NO MAN to be teaching you at all.
May you have peace and undeserved kindness from our Father through our Lord the Son of God.
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I was rereading Malachi 2.....
by VioletAnai instating that the actions of the priests have caused many tears to be shed on the alter of jehovah......(because of allowing unjust divorcing).
and for this they will be severly judged.
and in what way are tears being shed on jah's alter today?????
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kes152
And the "priests" were the ones who were "anointed" by Jah's spirit. So.. the prophecy (applied today) would be referring to the ANOINTED who have been causing TEARS to be shed on the altar of Jah.
Peace to you,
Aaron