Posts by kevin221

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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

by minimus in

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friends

i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

do you believe this?

kevin221

Loves Dubs,

Sorry I wasn't ignoring your question, just ignoring my computer so that I could rest my brain.

My life partner was raised a JW and left the JW's in his teens. His father was the "wacko" elder that I mentioned in my last post on this thread. He had shunned my partner for 20 years but for some reason came crawling out of the woodwork when Jon passed away from cancer last fall. His father tried to put some legal moves on me and stake a claim to Jons' estate. I really feel he did that to upset me and try to prove he was on the "moral high ground". He despised the fact that Jon and I were in a committed, long term (would have been nine years a couple of weeks ago) relationship that he found "sinful". Since we had made sure that everything would be covered legally in case of the worst case scenario happening in regards to Jons' health, I was able to thwart his fathers actions. I truthfully think the fact that he wasn't able to control the situation really ticked him off so he decided to retalliate. It was hateful and nasty and in the end costly but what's done is done. Hope that answers your question.

Take care,

Kevin

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It's been a long road...

by safe4kids in

as many of you know, i am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse.

i'm also a survivor of being raised a jw.

i'm also a survivor of dealing with sex abuse as a jw...lol.

kevin221

Dana,

You're my hero, and inspiration. I had no idea that you had suffered so much at the hands of the JW's. It makes what I've been through with them seem mild by comparison. Stay strong and keep growing darling. I wish you every happiness.

Take care,

Kevin

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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

do you believe this?

kevin221

paduan,

I also never gave the JW's much thought until I had direct dealings with some of them. "Wacked out" is the nicest way I can put how I feel into words without being offensive. All I know is that until the events of last fall and winter I had felt grief and depression before, but I had truthfully never felt physically vulnerable or in danger. I even bought a handgun that used to sit on my nightstand every night. I since got rid of the gun because I was going through some tough times emotionally and it wasn't a good idea to have a gun in the house when your slightly suicidal. Was I over reacting, mabey. Instinct took over when I felt threatened, so I did what I thought I needed to do to protect myself. I do know that I'll do whatever I can to help in bringing this lying, hateful, fake christian group crashing down. That may sound childish and vindictive but they started it so pooh on them (lol).

Take care,

Kevin

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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

do you believe this?

kevin221

minimus,

Oh believe me, I did call the police. There were lawsuits and counter suits and a big nasty mess, but I wasn't going to take his crap lying down. I've never been a JW so I didn't really know how wacked some if not most of them are. Now I definitely know, and will never allow them to take advantage of me in the future.

Take care,

Kevin

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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

do you believe this?

kevin221

minimus,

Let me expand on my previous post of "Ditto" to your question.

I've experienced harrasment, stalking, vandalism, trespassing, character assasination, and threats of physical violence against myself and also against my pets. (i.e. a note left on my front door read "Your cats are pretty, their fur would make lovely slippers") All of the above mentioned felonies were the acts of a JW elder. And to top it off, I was then visited by other elders of the local JW cult pod, asking me to try and understand why he had done these things, and mabey I could see things from his point of view and try and be compassionate and forgiving!

Do I believe that he would have killed me if his precious delusional cult gave him the go ahead. In a heartbeat.

Take care,

Kevin

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Faith? Real or wishful thinking?

by kevin221 in

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friends

a question for the masses.. is pure faith real, or just a tool the human psyche uses to justify life patterns or actions?

i'm having a hard time understanding how someone could have a secure belief system based 100 % on faith.

let me explain.

kevin221

A question for the masses.

Is pure faith real, or just a tool the human psyche uses to justify life patterns or actions? I'm having a hard time understanding how someone could have a secure belief system based 100 % on faith. Let me explain. I have a very strong, spiritual, but non religous belief system that I believe to be valid. However, I'm not egotistic enough to think that there is absolutely no chance that I may be wrong. An example, to be simplistic, for eons humans believed the world was flat, and there were many who would have staked their lives on it. We now know that was not correct, but it doesn't change the fact that there were millions of people who had total faith that they were 100% sure they were correct in believing something that turned out to be incorrect. I know some extremely religious people who absolutley believe that they know exactly what all people need to do to be saved by God, and they can't and or won't be dissuaded from their beliefs even when presented with hard scientific facts.

Mabey my life experience has left me unable to understand absolute faith, but I can't understand how and or why someone would be able to convince themselves they are 100% correct without even acknowledging that they just might by some fluke of chance, have it all wrong.

It may be a strange question, but I would like any input anyone here would care to share.

Take care,

Kevin

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WOULD A JW KILL IN THE NAME OF GOD???

by minimus in

jw
friends

i've heard different "apostates" say that witnesses are so brainwashed that they would kill, if ordered by the faithful slave.

do you believe this?

kevin221

Ditto.

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Why do men have nipples???

by Celtic in

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friends

i always did wonder about this, i mean, what function do they have and further, if, just supposing that we are made in the image of god, does god himself have the equivalent of nipples?

any insights proffered?

celty .

kevin221

"gay bitch",

Hey LB, I thought that was my area of expertise??!! I must admit nipples are a major hot spot for me. I have both nipples pierced and do sometimes wear a chain that connects the two rings in my nipples. I was at a club once where someone grabbed the chain by accident on the dance floor and YOUCH!! So now I only wear it on special occasions!

Kevin

Yikes edited for my horrible spelling.

Edited by - kevin221 on 3 September 2002 22:12:52

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Hello again to all/ Serious question I need input!

by kevin221 in

jw
friends

hope everyone is well.

i haven't posted much in quite a while but i have been lurking every so often and i just wanted to pop in and say hi, and give an update.

i'm doing well, not fantastic, but well and that's cool for now.

kevin221

Thanks for everyone's advice. Most of my friends have given just about the same advice as I received here, wait a year and make sure that I'm doing it for the right reasons. Jon and I had talked in depth about having a child before he got sick, and we had decided to just let things take their own course so to speak and take our time in deciding, so it probably is a good idea to wait and think it through. I've decided to put it on the back burner in my mind until my birthday next March, and not dwell on it till then. That way I can make sure that I'm thinking clearly and not letting emotions rule my decision.

Thanks again and take care,

Kevin

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Hello again to all/ Serious question I need input!

by kevin221 in

jw
friends

hope everyone is well.

i haven't posted much in quite a while but i have been lurking every so often and i just wanted to pop in and say hi, and give an update.

i'm doing well, not fantastic, but well and that's cool for now.

kevin221

Hope everyone is well.

I haven't posted much in quite a while but I have been lurking every so often and I just wanted to pop in and say hi, and give an update. I'm doing well, not fantastic, but well and that's cool for now. All the crap with Jon's father is now taken care of so that's a load off my back. He sued me and then I counter sued, drama drama drama, but in the end I got a judgement and it really pissed him off so I feel fantastic about that. I spent a few weeks in the mental hospital and thought I was doing better, but things unraveled again after that and I developed a substance abuse problem and ended up in rehab. It was the best thing that could have happened to me, even if I didn't think so at the time. It's one day at a time and that helps me keep things in perspective.

Jon's sister who was living at Bethel in NYC with her husband decided to come see me again back in June. It was nice having someone who could help me remember the funny stuff instead of the yuck. She decided while she was here to leave the JW's and her husband, and she seems to be happier so I say more power to her. Her father is convinced that I'm the spawn of the devil because now I've taken his daughter from his as well as his son, but he's a mental case anyway so I don't care what he thinks. If there is ever a poster child needed to show people why they should never become a JW, he is it!

Anyway here is the question. I would like opinions on this as I have spoken to most of my friends and some of Jon's family and I'm still not sure what to do. Years ago Jon had some of his sperm frozen since the doctors told him the chemo would probably make him sterile. He told me he didn't know if he would ever want to have children, via a surrogate or whatever, but he wanted to know that he could in the future if he decided to. I was talking to a good friend of ours about this about a month ago and she told me that she wanted to be a surrogate for me but that she didn't want to have any legal resp. for the child as she already has 3 of her own. I told her I would think about it and let her know, but I can't seem to decide if that's the best way to go. I think it might be better to wait until I can find a surrogate that I don't have any ties to. I'm just afraid that having someone so close to me acting as the surrogate may just make things too complicated. The one thing I do know is that if I'm ever going to do this, now is the time. Or at least in the next year. I'm 40 now and I wouldn't want to have any more of an age gap than that. Poor kid's going to have enough to deal with without having a geriatric father.

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone and I appreciate your opinions.

Kevin