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  Hugs and thanks to all (((board)))

  by kevin221 in

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  2. friends

  i just wanted to express my thanks to all on this db for your support and bluntness when needed over the past year.

  yesterday 10/8 was the 1 year anniversary of jon's death and i spent it reflecting and just chilling out cause that's what i thought was best.

  one thing that came to mind was the help i recieved here and the words of sympathy and encouragement that many of you expressed after jon passed and i just wanted to pass along my thanks again for your kindness.

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  Tracy,
  Big smooches 2 U

  Amanda,
  Great to see you're still around. I've been looking for you on other sites that shall remain unnamed (lol) to see how you are doing. Hope all is well. Big smooches to you as well!!
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  Hugs and thanks to all (((board)))

  by kevin221 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to express my thanks to all on this db for your support and bluntness when needed over the past year.

  yesterday 10/8 was the 1 year anniversary of jon's death and i spent it reflecting and just chilling out cause that's what i thought was best.

  one thing that came to mind was the help i recieved here and the words of sympathy and encouragement that many of you expressed after jon passed and i just wanted to pass along my thanks again for your kindness.

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  btt to make sure everyone gets their cyber hug!!
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  So, what did you have for dinner?

  by Princess in

  1. jw
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  i just skimmmed over a lot of angry posts (see all the flames listed below) and i'm in the mood for a little fluff.. what did you have for dinner?

  any good recipes to share?

  anything nice to say at all?.

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  Steak and fried tater's...mmmm mmmm good on the taste buds but I can hear my arteries clogging as I type.

  Kevin
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  Hugs and thanks to all (((board)))

  by kevin221 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to express my thanks to all on this db for your support and bluntness when needed over the past year.

  yesterday 10/8 was the 1 year anniversary of jon's death and i spent it reflecting and just chilling out cause that's what i thought was best.

  one thing that came to mind was the help i recieved here and the words of sympathy and encouragement that many of you expressed after jon passed and i just wanted to pass along my thanks again for your kindness.

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  larc,

  I know I keep saying I will and then don't and I apologize.
  We should get together for coffee sometime. Do U know the Bob Evans at Dorothy and Valleywood in Kettering? I'm within blocks if that's convenient for you. Let me know and hope all is well with your household.

  Kevin
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  Hugs and thanks to all (((board)))

  by kevin221 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to express my thanks to all on this db for your support and bluntness when needed over the past year.

  yesterday 10/8 was the 1 year anniversary of jon's death and i spent it reflecting and just chilling out cause that's what i thought was best.

  one thing that came to mind was the help i recieved here and the words of sympathy and encouragement that many of you expressed after jon passed and i just wanted to pass along my thanks again for your kindness.

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  LB,

  Yeah I did and though it was slightly vindictive, it was funny as hell. I donated the money to the Aids foundation and Planned parenthood, in Jons' fathers name. They said they will send him a nice thank you letter once a month for a year and print a nice big thank for your support ad in the classifieds of his hometown newspaper. All that money to two groups the JW's can't stand!!!! Boy I'd love to see him try to explain that to his precious brothers. I can't take credit for the idea as it was suggested to me by Jons' sister and others but it was the best way to deal with donating the money and still getting some ha ha's as well. I know it was a little mean spirited, but the money went to good causes and he gets a little jab in the process so I figured, what the hell.

  Take care,
  K

  ((((out)))) You're one class act in my book.
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  Hugs and thanks to all (((board)))

  by kevin221 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to express my thanks to all on this db for your support and bluntness when needed over the past year.

  yesterday 10/8 was the 1 year anniversary of jon's death and i spent it reflecting and just chilling out cause that's what i thought was best.

  one thing that came to mind was the help i recieved here and the words of sympathy and encouragement that many of you expressed after jon passed and i just wanted to pass along my thanks again for your kindness.

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  kevin221

  I just wanted to express my thanks to all on this db for your support and bluntness when needed over the past year. Yesterday 10/8 was the 1 year anniversary of Jon's death and I spent it reflecting and just chilling out cause that's what I thought was best. One thing that came to mind was the help I recieved here and the words of sympathy and encouragement that many of you expressed after Jon passed and I just wanted to pass along my thanks again for your kindness. Without ever being a JW and only having Jon as a connection to that special little cult, I was warmly welcomed here and have been dealt with kindly and when needed also very bluntly. After that stupid drama queen stunt I pulled last spring with the whole sleeping pills crap it's a wonder any of you ever spoke to me again, but you did and I am most appreciative. It's nice to have a place to come to talk and exchange ideas and learn ALOT about the JW org with people who for the most part are kind and not too awfully eager to smack me around, verbally that is,lol. And yes I've started my fair share of "flames" most of which I regret. Again my many thanks to you all and know that your kindness and help thru the last year has been very much appreciated. With the help of some of you here I was able to share some info with one of Jons' sisters and she has since left the JW's, though I think she was on the verge of it anyway, but the extra facts helped to give her that little kick she needed to finally reclaim her life. So there's at least 1 person I know of personally that has regained her life due to the discusions on this board, and that is awesome. I applaud you all.
  

  Take care,

  Kevin
  (The adopted apostate)
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  The Enormous Price of Lack of Faith

  by Zechariah in

  1. jw
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  trusting god is far more than merely believing he exists.. i just this evening watched a senate session on cspan on the subject of delaying deciding on preemptive strikes against iraq.

  it was very interesting to see how lack of trust in god causes irrational fear that people will be willing to sacrafice all their wealth, their comforts, and even the lives of their children.

  without the belief that god exists and that spiritual forces exist there is hopelessness.

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  Zechariah you wrote:

  "It was very interesting to see how lack of trust in God causes irrational fear that people will be willing to sacrafice all their wealth, their comforts, and even the lives of their children."

  Man I wish I had spotted this Senate session on CSPAN! (sarcasm intended)

  Now on to my point, exactly what parallel universe do you exist in Zech?

  Are you implying that people who don't believe and or trust in "God" are somehow inferior to those of you who do? Seems to me that's what you're getting at, but I don't want to put words in your mouth, so please let me know if I've misunderstood your post. Just in case I've understood you correctly, here are just a few points rebutting your statements. Feel free to respond if you so desire.

  I have as yet never met a "non God believer" that held any fears I would label as irrational, excluding those who were mentally challenged to begin with. I have however met SEVERAL "God believers" who constantly worried if today was the day the "end" would come, of if there was some evil "non God believer" behind the nearest bush, waiting to jump out and "persecute" them for their religious beliefs. Which of the above mentioned mind sets sounds more "rational" to you? Don't be upset with yourself if you choose the wrong answer, I understand it must be upsetting to concede your point.

  You didn't specify if "God believers" outside the Christian Judeo belief structure were included in your statement, so I will assume they are unless you advise otherwise. Please specify if you are referring to all "God believers" or only those who believe in and fear the same "God" as you. I don't know of anyone personally that would be willing to "sacrifice their children" for any reason, "God believer" or not. I know it's a common practice in some Muslim countries for a "God fearing" man to murder his child if they have caused the family shame. Ah justice, in the name of "God". It just makes you want to jump up and sing his praises, doesn't it? I realise this doesn't jive with the assumptions you posted but don't be too hard on yourself, anyone can make a mistake.

  I fail to see how your rant holds water, but being a "non God believer" myself, I may be suffering from some form of hysterical delusion. No doubt it was brought on by my irrational "non God believing" fear of Iraq, but I need to be sure. I'll take a Lithium and re read your post to make sure I haven't taken it out of context. I have plenty of Lithium to spare, so let me know if you'd like to try one the next time those pesky "spiritual forces" start to bother you.

  Take care,
  Kevin
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  Jan (Zazu) will be home soon

  by larc in

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  my wife will be home tomorrow or the next day.

  she went through all the tests and there is no blockage in her heart, neck, or her brain.

  she is recovering her strength and dexterity at a rate where they believe that she will be all right at home.

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  Larc,

  It's wonderful to hear the great news of Jan's improving health. Take care and know that you are both in my thoughts.

  Kevin
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  What reason is there to live???

  by songmistress in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  this is a for real question, not just hypothetical.

  some of you are aware that i am going through a very rough time.

  i have been diagnosed with chronic major depression, probably from childhood.

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  Song,

  There is only one honest answer I can give to your question. You will see all the reasons you have for living on a personal level, after all the crap clears. I'm not trying to be flip when I say this, because I speak from experience. I lost my life partner/significant other/lover/husband/soulmate to cancer last fall and I thought I was dealing with the reality of that, but I wasn't. Then I lost my father shortly thereafter and I went insane. After a serious bout with depression I made a very lame and very vocal cry for help in a stupid attempt at suicide and checked into a mental hospital where I thought I was coping with my illness, but again I was wrong. After my release from the hospital I still felt I had nothing to live for, so I might as well go out with and bang and have a good time trying to kill myself. I started using drugs and developed a serious substance abuse problem. Every waking moment of my life was consumed with trying my damndest to add even more crap to the huge load of crap that was my life at that time.

  One morning this past spring I woke up, snorted about a half gram of cocaine, chugged down 3 cocktails and jumped in my car to take one of my cats to the vet for her checkup. Before I made it out of the driveway, thanks to fate or god or the universe or whatever, I looked down at my precious girl and realized for the first time that my behaviour wasn't only affecting me. It may sound trivial or simplistic, but even though I knew I didn't care if I lived or died, I damn sure cared what happened to that cat. I sat in that car for hours crying, laughing, talking to my cat, myself, my dead father and my dead partner until I realized that I needed professional help, and finally made the decision to commit myself to finding it.

  After rehab, therapy and trying different anti depressants that my doctor recommended, the fog that had enveloped my life began to clear. Only then did I begin to understand that my previous decisions and actions had been guided by my mental illness and substance abuse. Those thoughts and feelings weren't REAL, they were the byproducts of chemicals and depression.

  I'm not going to promise you that life is easy and that everything will be fantastic and wonderful some day because that's just not true. The good times will come, but there will always be crap from time to time as well. I will promise you that if you give it time and your full commitment, it will get easier to appreciate and enjoy your life, and that will definitely make it worth sticking around to live it.

  Take care and know you are not alone in your struggle,

  Kevin
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  What power would you want???

  by LB in

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  imagine you can have some form of super power.

  just one.

  what would it be??

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  The power to bring someone back to life. Talk about awesome.

  Kevin