Posts by pbrow

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Tv.jw.org - Average Jdub reaction? I'm getting NOTHING but Silence!

by 4thgen in

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hello all, as you know, when jw tv was announced, our board went wild.

many comments, much speculation and alot of negative feedback on the quality, etc.

well, what has me concerned is that i have not heard a peep from any of my connections left in kingdom-land.

The more people who leave the Witnesses, the more people will leave. True?

by ThomasCovenant in

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if more faders stopped fading and just stopped,.

would more of the many closet unbelieving attendees just stop too, creating a momentum?.

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millie210... I agree people stay for social reasons but if they do they are helping to enforce the cult mentality for the next generation of kids growing up in the organization. An individuals reason for staying does not matter. If you stay in you are showing the future generation that its ok to stay in. I think of all the men that I looked up to when I was a kid, I found out when I grew up that they were almost to a man just in it for their wives or family. By their inaction they created the illusion that it is ok to be in the organization. My view on every one of those "men" has been drastically changed, they were nothing but spineless doucebags in spineless sheeps clothing.

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The more people who leave the Witnesses, the more people will leave. True?

by ThomasCovenant in

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if more faders stopped fading and just stopped,.

would more of the many closet unbelieving attendees just stop too, creating a momentum?.

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pbrow

Thomas...

I would clarify it by saying the more people who wake up and let it be known that they are awake the more people will wake up. Fading plays into the Jdub mentality... By fading you allow people to guess or assume why you left and it will mostly be assumed you are weak. Punk is correct about everything he writes but in my opinion if more people would stop pussyfooting around and just make it known why they leave the more people will wake up. You can not give a shit about what people think and fade and that is fine but if you have any inkling to help others wake up you cannot fade.

It is another matter to stay in and help spread TTATT, but if you have to get out, fading is how the organization wants you to leave. For almost 30 years I did what the organization wanted me to do..... no more. I remember an interview with Ted Jaracz (allah rest his soul) saying in an interview once something to the effect of "if they want to leave they are free to just go away"

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Bible Students

by lambsbottom in

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ptt....

I have an honest question for you. I will gladly acknowledge that I no longer believe in the bible but that being said this is what I can not get over....

How do you justify believing in 1914, 1874 or any date for that matter when Jesus and the bible clearly codemn prognositcating dates?

When I still was of the opinion that the bible was god's word, I could not get over anyone trying to provide explanations of dates when the bible itself clearly admonishes to flee from false prophets or date prognosticating. It is a no brainer as far as I am concerned.

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Bible Students

by lambsbottom in

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Since leaving for good it is hard for me to even fathom how someone can say/type the words 144,000 with a straight face. Once one wakes up and really takes questioning to the proper extent I do not see how you can look at any organization that bases its beliefs on the bible and come away with a positive view of them.

Technically the bible students have been wrong even longer than the jdubs and in another 100 years they will still have been wrong longer still. If you need the church i guess you need the church but for allah's sake its like nails on a chalkboard hearing about 144000, 1000 year rule, birds picking eyes out and sinners.

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SAD HOLY SPIRIT ILLUSTRATION

by GreenhornChristian in

just got an email from elder sharing illustration from assembly.

the holy spirit does not seem to be in control as it supposedly was in the 1st century.

it's just lube now.

pbrow

Holy spirit doesnt fap us!!!!! That is an awesome line bro!!

Almost spit out my coffee!

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Advertise, Advertise

by pbrow in

does anyone know where i can get a full copy of the "advertise" speech?

i cannot find it on the interwebs or using the search function.

i thought it was published in an old watchtower but i am not sure.... thanks for any help,.

pbrow

Really?? I do have it.. Thanks bro

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Advertise, Advertise

by pbrow in

does anyone know where i can get a full copy of the "advertise" speech?

i cannot find it on the interwebs or using the search function.

i thought it was published in an old watchtower but i am not sure.... thanks for any help,.

pbrow

Hello all,

Does anyone know where I can get a full copy of the "advertise" speech?

I cannot find it on the interwebs or using the search function. I thought it was published in an old Watchtower but I am not sure...

Thanks for any help,

pbrow

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I get so tired of people always bringing up "Black on Black" crime.

by booker-t in

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i am responding to a post by someone the other day about a black girl beaten by a mob of other black teens for "acting too white.

" the poster was trying to drive home the idea black people commit more crimes against themselves then white people do to them.

while it is true some black people do insult other black people who they believe are trying to fit in with caucasian people, white people, hispanics, asians, and other races do the same exact thing to people in their ethnic group as well.

pbrow

98.5% of all crime is committed by one race on another......

"69.2% of all statistics on the internet are made up" Abraham Lincoln

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The Time Is Coming For Progressive Governments To Make Laws Against Oppressive Cults To Protect It's Citizens, Making Lawsuits More Plentiful Against Them

by frankiespeakin in

i think as black&white thinking becomes lesser governments will start makeing laws that will put cults open for more lawsuits.

what do you think..

pbrow

The watchtower does not deprive people of speaking with their parents or children. The watchtower does not deprive children of blood transfusions. The watchtower does not hold a gun to anyones head. Thats what totalitarian goverments like china and north korea do to their people. The watchtower is not some obscure clandestine headless agency "making people" do things they dont want to do. As much as people hate hearing "corporations are people" it is a true statement. Its the same way with cults. Cults are people. Weak minded people but people nontheless.

In a free society you cannot remove cults (christianity, islam etc...) I agree with many here, take away tax exempt status, give children needed medical care but people are free to no receive care if they dont want it.

The solution to all cults is open discussion & debate. Logic and reason will win out in the long run.

pbrow