Too far??
pbrow
amazing kingdom hall sign endorses cedars' jwsurvey.org!.
ap newswire - january 24th, 2013, middle america, usa.
whoa y'all!.
Too far??
pbrow
that is my dilema.
my child is wonderful, funny, smart, talented, cute, kind, and a social butterfly.
i want to see her happy.
amen outsmart and bible student!
You give your children just 1 or 2 birthdays, give them a christmas or two and your kids will realize that heads are not cut off, EVERYONE at the parties has a good time (not just the birthday kid) and you will literally see the inner workings of their minds saying "THIS IS COMPLETELY NORMAL". It also has been mentioned to get your kids involved. ANY sports, dance, girl/boy scouts will work wonders on your childrens self confidence and teach them that all these things are perfectly normal.
I have been at it for about three years and my children could not imagine life without any of the above things even though their mother is still "in". I would even go so far as to say "doctrine" has nothing to do with it if you get them early enough. The simple fact that almost everything is discouraged will become wierd in THEIR mind and you cant ask for anything more than that. I would just recommend to not make the jdub life the forbidden fruit Dont bash it, just explain where it is deficient. (which is no small task)
Good luck (yes, I said luck and it doesnt have anything to do with magic or demons)
pbrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xqsyc_vwhdg.
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BING!!!!
hello, i haven't been on here in awhile and it looks like a whole new crowd.
i disassociated myself about 8 years ago.
went through a divorce and shunning from most my family.
hellow bavman! Always good to see a fellow sconnie on the boards. Granted I do not know a lot about your situation but I can imagine that part of your waking up was having to explain these crazy theories to your son. It was a huge part of why I woke up and finally took the proactive stand like you of getting out. Have a conversation with him about that. Tell him you could not in good conscience teach those things to him and now your daughter. Ask him to explain the doctrines you cannot accept (607, denying christ at memorial, 1874, 1914, 1925, cross vs stake, no sports, holidays, df'ing ... etc ) Really listen to him. Question him. Dont let him get away with the usual conversation stoppers like "you know why" or "where else could you go"
Good luck bro,
pbrow
attend the memorial this year..
If I didnt have kids then I agree with zed. I would go for a million dollars. Actually, i would go for $1000
pbrow
attend the memorial this year..
phizzy.... going to the memorial or even a meeting or two is a powerful lesson if you have kids that still attend. Having your children actually SEE someone shun me, their father, who they love more than anyone, just trying to shake hands with someone has made my children very aware that something is wrong. Sitting next to them while the scripture where jesus says "take eat" and asking them right then and there why noone in the entire bldg is listening to jesus is a powerful message for them. Treat the meetings or memorial just like a christmas service or a regular church service. Dont prop it up to be something its not. Its a wierd quasi-semi-christian religion that has wierd rituals like EVERY OTHER RELIGION.
Dont make it the forbidden fruit. That is how the dubs win. They will warp that into their persecution complex.
Your making the meetings/memorial too important. Its just church!! nothing to be afraid of.
pbrow
attend the memorial this year..
Im out. Young children still in with mother.
I go and tell my kids.... Listen to what Jesus says in the bible about what we should do with the bread and wine. I tell them dont ever let anyone tell you to not do what Jesus has told you to do.
They picked up on it very quick. Now its just reinforcement.
pbrow
i am looking for the reinstatement guidelines for someone who has been actively trying to get reinstated for 2 years and have put in a reinstatement letter 3x in those two years but was denied everytime.
are the elders just making an example of them, have they permenately been kicked out, or maybe these people dont want to come back and this story is part of their fade.. .
has anyone ever heard of people not getting reinstated.
premeditated divorce/marriages can take a long time and a previous poster is correct... the innocent spouse does have some say (not officially though) I also think a few very nice contributions written in check form may help speed up the process.
I was innocent spouse (although df'd for smoking cigars around the same time) and my ex and her new money new husband got back in around 2 years later. They got back in before me! Frankly both ex, new hubby and new hubby's ex all deserve each other.
pbrow
as jehovah's witnesses, we were never encouraged to give to any charitable organizations except for you-know-who .
.. what charities stand out in your mind?
i like doctors without borders as well as my local nyc public radio stations.
veerni project.... veerni.org
Read about them in National Geographic. They work on curbing the marriage rate for young girls in india. here is a link to the natgeo article..
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/child-brides/gorney-text/1
pbrow
so.....a jw friend brought me a $12.00 cuban cigar.. what's the big deal??
as far as i can tell, yuch!.
what am i missing?.
OOOOHHHH.... They are probably Dominicans!! Watch out though... those dominicans roll them way too tight!!
pbrow