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  Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father

  by Zana in

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  my wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.

  my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .

  sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.

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  roberto,

  My best friend growing up had a father who was a "fader" It hit me then and pissed me off when I came to the realization that he could have grown a pair and allowed my friend to participate in extra-curricular activities but didnt. If you are a fader and not trying to step on toes when you have kids you sentence these kids to a fxxxed up childhood. I dont care how much time the mother spends with the children. If you as a FATHER not only encourage but sign up your children for NORMAL extra-curricular activities/sports/dances it does not take long for the children themselves to see the jw way as being vastly inferior.

  BREAK THE BUBBLE.... DO NOT FADE IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN. Your relationship depends on it!!!

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  Evidence For Life After Death

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
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  i'm not sure if i believe in life after death but i thought of something that has me leaning toward that direction.

  unlike other living beings, humans have a consciousness that is separate from our brain.

  two prime examples of this are addiction and dieting.

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  I agree, obviously you cant see the soundwaves but they can be searched or measured. Again, its science. Its like cofty said, there is no ghost in the machine. Science is the tool that helps to explain why radios work, why planes fly and why medications work. Science has been kicking the shit out of supernatural explanations for thousands of years. Unfortunately, as the late great Christopher Hitchens says as long as we are afraid of death and the dark we will have religion (I think he was quoting Freud though) We will continue to have science to keep the shit kickers busy for eons.

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  Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father

  by Zana in

  1. social
  2. family

  my wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.

  my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .

  sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.

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  Zana..... I honestly believe that people here are blowing this out of proportion. You are the father correct? Sign them up for baseball, soccer, karate and anything else you can. Allow them to goto school dances, go to the park with "worldy friends", do birthdays and have school friends over. Allow them to goto birthday parties of school friends. The witnesses have an almost 70% drop out rate. If you allow your child to have a normal life, your children will start to see all on their own how messed up that relgion is.

  The previous posters are correct in a sense. The dubs have a great business model. If they can keep the children in the bubble it works great. If that bubble is broken then the business model is fucked. BREAK THE BUBBLE!! My middle school aged children were told that they couldnt join the theocratic ministry school because they were "dating" My kids said "i dont care, i dont want to join the school" When you are in the bubble, the tms is a big deal because its really all you can do besides go out in service. When you allow your child to have a normal life ie sports, dance & other extra-curriculars the tms and service are insanely boring. When you have a normal life, every time you are forced to go to the kingdom hall or service just reinforces the fact that it is a wierd religion where all the OTHER kids cant do anything!!

  Good luck,

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  C.T. Russel IS burried UNDER the pyramid

  by FFtruther144 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  russel is burried under the pyramid.

  according to none other than frederick franz himself, in his own words!.

  i read some wt trolls on here trying to say that he is under the marker a few feet away.. that is not true.

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  I will be sure to save enough urine for both the tombstone and the pyramid then just to be sure!

  Oh, and villagegirl it does matter where they were buried. How else can I piss on their graves if I do not know where they are buried? Duh

  Thanks for the heads up!

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  The Books are Cooked: Grossly Misleading chart and graphic

  by Tech49 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are the charts and number graphics you see in the wt and awake articles factual?

  or are they misleading?.

  many have already discussed how verses, quotes, and facts are cherry-picked to fit a particular situation.. i came across another blatant misrepresentation of facts, in a grossly misleading chart-graphic.

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  UUGGHH.... I wanted to punch you at " Please open your current study copy of the WT"

  That aside.... good observation

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  Evidence For Life After Death

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
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  i'm not sure if i believe in life after death but i thought of something that has me leaning toward that direction.

  unlike other living beings, humans have a consciousness that is separate from our brain.

  two prime examples of this are addiction and dieting.

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  I guess the appropriate question then is where physically in the body does the consciousness originate from then? If you were to take an xray or ultrasound where would we find the center that houses our consciousness? (if its not the brain) Maybe you think it is some type of force?

  Every part of the body has nerves that eventually go back to the brain. All information is processed in and by the brain.

  I think your premise is flawed when making the statement that consciouness is separate from the brain. By assuming that statement is correct you are disregarding neuroscience. If you start from the idea that somehow consciousness is separate from the brain because of a religious or spiritual belief and I start from the idea that all consciousness comes from the brain well then I think we are just going to have to disagree.

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  Evidence For Life After Death

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not sure if i believe in life after death but i thought of something that has me leaning toward that direction.

  unlike other living beings, humans have a consciousness that is separate from our brain.

  two prime examples of this are addiction and dieting.

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  I suppose you could say the brain is resisting itself. I would say the brain may want something in the form of a fourth helping of chocolate cake. Another area of the brain knows that the fourth helping is not good for it for a number of different reasons. The brain then makes the decision that even though the fourth piece of the chocolate cake still tastes good it is not in the body's best interest to eat it. One part of the brain resisted another part of the brain.

  I guess I fail to see why having different reasons and options equates with the consiousness being seperate from the brain. The part of the brain that controls consciousness is a part of the brain. Just like the part of the brain that controls sight is a part of the brain.

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  Why was the Book of Enoch omitted from the Bible..

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the book of enoch taught women magic, the art of war.

  and cosmetic..they felt this book was too far out in left field.. the show "bible secrets revealed".. ok, magic vs having a monster baby by a angel.. so happy they omitted that book, otherwise women would.

  be leaders of the militaries.

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  It couldn't get the votes. It really is that simple.

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  Evidence For Life After Death

  by Space Madness in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not sure if i believe in life after death but i thought of something that has me leaning toward that direction.

  unlike other living beings, humans have a consciousness that is separate from our brain.

  two prime examples of this are addiction and dieting.

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  Conscious or non-conscious, the phrase "its all in your head" applies here. Its all coming from your brain. Our consciousness is not seperate from our brain it is a system of our brain.

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  Do You Believe That Jehovah's Witnesses Should Be Outlawed As They Are In Some Countries?

  by minimus in

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  or do you believe they have the right to practice their religion, as they do?.

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  This is the USA we don't ban religions.... we just mock them.... ok we mock them but we dont show cartoons of mouhammed. That is just crazy talk!

  In this day of information the last thing you want to do is ban a religion. The small majority of idiots (and former idiots such as myself) will join but the vast majority of people will either refrain from joining or join a religion and do whatever the hell they want to do. Banning something restricts freedom (even the right to join a fucked up religion) and that should be done as little as possible.

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