It really do not matter. I anyway liked JWOWW site much more and it's still there.
clearpoison
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Well the JWC@fe is no more...
by serenitynow! ini tried to find it, but it's gone.
as well as the jehovah's witness fb page.
it seems in the recent weeks those sites became "overrun" with apostates and were no longer encouraging.
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Reply From Co-worker - Feel Excellent Moment!
by Doubtfully Yours inso, there we all are in the break room in my place of work, and the topic turns to the holiday shopping madness.
this co-worker starts to say how expensive this holiday season has been for him and that he's still not done, and too bad when the day comes the family members will find fault or something else wrong with his gifts, and to make things worst, that the wife also was purchasing gifts with his credit card so he feared the january statement.. so, i jokingly told him that one way he can remedy that is by telling his family that he's been studying the bible and that he won't be celebrating christmas this year as he's studying to become a jw.
they all laughed loudly and the guy, second by others in the room, told me that i just didn't know how good i had it being a jw this time of the year.
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clearpoison
As long as DY is happy with her decision and convinced that this is the right way for her, I am happy for her. If it would be other way around as it seems have been, I would be happy for that too. Just it is her personal faith and decision. I have no idea about her motives to continue writing here, she said that she wan't to fix things she has been doing, fine. Doing it here is like she would go and sit with Serbian supporters as German in soccer match Serbia-Germany in Belgrade. Courageous indeed but maybe not serving it's purpose.
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How was dating as Jehovah Witness?
by Pitchess Co-Gen inlooking back i'm glad i didn't marry my ex..
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clearpoison
Despite the heavy petting and guilt feelings it was quite nice experience. There was still certain amount of sadness and fear that the other party would find the things we were doing in absense of chaperons, well something that should stop us for dating. Fortunatelly she did not follow the rules either.
Considering the length of dating I would say that it was very much shorter than worldly norms. In retrospect very much because we feared doing the ultimate wrong, not just unclean thing, sooner or later. It was kind of close (many times), but we managed.
For the discussion part, I would say that lack of chaperons really gave us possibility to talk about lot's of stuff and be prepared. Long distance service drives made it possible along sitting in cafées and bars, without getting too much attention from others to our doings.
As whole we very much broke all dating "rules" while dating, unnoticed though.
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Reply From Co-worker - Feel Excellent Moment!
by Doubtfully Yours inso, there we all are in the break room in my place of work, and the topic turns to the holiday shopping madness.
this co-worker starts to say how expensive this holiday season has been for him and that he's still not done, and too bad when the day comes the family members will find fault or something else wrong with his gifts, and to make things worst, that the wife also was purchasing gifts with his credit card so he feared the january statement.. so, i jokingly told him that one way he can remedy that is by telling his family that he's been studying the bible and that he won't be celebrating christmas this year as he's studying to become a jw.
they all laughed loudly and the guy, second by others in the room, told me that i just didn't know how good i had it being a jw this time of the year.
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clearpoison
I guess DY got the 'feel good' moment because the joke she told was accepted by the audience. In the very same manner as stand-up comedians feel good when audience is laughing.
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observations from today's tower study and questions
by therevealer inpage 29 paragraph 16 at the head of an army of powerful angels and, no doubt, his resurrected.
brothers, he will destroy satan's entire political, military, and commercial system on.
earth.
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clearpoison
And if the final sealing means resurrection to heaven does this contradict some being on earth for Armageddon
I always understood this in such way that they can be sealed as member of the kings and priests in heaven, irrevocably, as they are ultimatelly proven righteous and cannot fail anymore. Their earthly lives will however continue and the transformation to heaven from earthly life is then separate occasion. What I'm uncertain about is if surviving anointed and sealed are expected to stay for a while in post-Armageddon world.
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Is this a change in WT policy?
by cofty inin the previous elder's manual was it a judicial offence if somebody persistently associated with a disfellowshipped person?
i am sure it ws when i was an elder.
was that not how they finally got ray franz?.
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clearpoison
Ofcourse, not trying to get indulged with multiple special privileges, could be considered as brazen conduct. Who knows?
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They keep pushing and pushing for the rank and file to do more and more. Dec 15 WT
by life is to short inthey are causing mental problems by pushing and pushing the ones in to do more and more and more.. the dec 15th wt on page 7 says .
"you have a document that needs a certain person's attention by the end of the day.
you mare it urgent!
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clearpoison
Are you telling that WBTS should launch a Telenovela kind of dramatized daily TV program, the life and conscious of JW?
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Conscious Class: Do you still go in field service?
by brotherdan ini know there are some of the "conscious class" on the board (i.e.
yknot, miseryloveselders,elderelite,etc...) do you guys still go in the field ministry?
and if so, what do you focus on?
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clearpoison
how'd you do that?
By telling them the truth, that I had not been able to make the truth "my own" during my active years. I was referring to doubts concerning myself and my position in God's plans. I did not attack any doctrinal issues, I really couldn't either, as said I've not been able to make truth "my own". I was however prepared to whatever outcome. I understood they could interpret this as DA (it was not what I was searching for), they could find the reason to start DF process (I believe they have means, knowledge and right to pursue this too), that it was OK was the least expected outcome.
I have my family in, I have extensive amount of "friends" I've learned to know during years. I would not have resisted the DA/DF either, I know what is the consequense of that. Put I really believe that each and everyone must themselves be satisfied with what and how they believe. It cannot be outsourced to a collective body. If someone really believes personally I'm glad for them, if someone has found out that they cannot believe this way, I'm equally glad form them, because both parties have made a personal decision.
Ok, this went slightly OT, sorry for that
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Conscious Class: Do you still go in field service?
by brotherdan ini know there are some of the "conscious class" on the board (i.e.
yknot, miseryloveselders,elderelite,etc...) do you guys still go in the field ministry?
and if so, what do you focus on?
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clearpoison
Debating with myself if I'm being part of the Conscious Class, assuming so. No, I do not participate in FS, I explained to couple of Elders why it would be inappropriate and they agreed.
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When a person gets disfellowshipped, why do the elders say no longer one of JW's.
by Joliette ini've been meaning on asking this, and i forgot to post it when i first joined this website..
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clearpoison
I overheard this kind of explanation once. It really do not matter if a person DA's themselves or get DF'd, it is due to person's own actions and unrepentant attitude that leads to that they cannot be considered to be one of the JW's anymore. Therefore the announcement in same format for both cases would be appropriate.
Whatever