join us tonight, saturday dec. 18,2010 at 7p.m.est for our annual christmas program on the six screens of the watchtower conference call.
many former , as well as active jehovah's witnesses call in from all over the world and you will be thrilled to hear what they say concerning christmas and the jehovah's witnesses.
do many jehovah's witnesses secretly celebrate christmas?
As long as I remember we had Christmas Food, surprisingly in Christmas time, in very traditional way. All the family, including the DF/DA'd branches were invited to join the meal and enjoy family time together. No tree and decorations (except much candles), no presents (except what we got from DA/DF families), no singing (which I'm grateful for). I can't really label it as Christmas celebration, but it was not far from it anyway.
CP
Why is the lady in top right not paying attention? She's checking something else out. Could the clock be that low?
My guess is that she is checking someone out, maybe slightly flirty, possibly the visiting speech holder. She also sits one seat away from her husband the "count the people" elder.
CP
before i get to the gem in this week's tms, let me let any of you newbies here up to date with us jdubs and schooling.
in the february 22, 2002 watchtower, the wtbts released the article titled "how my dream was fullfilled".
it was one of many typical jw stories of a good devout jdub "resisting temptation" and accepting the borg as absolute truth.
With all due respect, the above perfectly illustrates the problem here.
Exactly, that is why I think saying that they are most educated people is self-righteous. Saying that they are well informed would already be different, even not exactly right either.
CP
before i get to the gem in this week's tms, let me let any of you newbies here up to date with us jdubs and schooling.
in the february 22, 2002 watchtower, the wtbts released the article titled "how my dream was fullfilled".
it was one of many typical jw stories of a good devout jdub "resisting temptation" and accepting the borg as absolute truth.
The word most at least is wrong and propably education is wrong term about it. But at least I must say that the variety of themes available ie. through awake magazine is exceptional. If people read those articles, at least general knowledge about different phenomenoms should be raising. It is absolutelly not equivalent (2-3 pages) to specified studies in colleges or universities ofcourse, but spectrum of themes is wider also. I've learned lots of interesting stuff from the awake articles that would not otherwise have been brought to my attention.
All things are not bad, self-righteous statements may very well be.
CP
hey here we go!!!.
they will need to buy some more crackers and cheap wine for next year now.
what are the borg going to concocked now to cover there ass with the number of morons going up again at the memorial 2010 ?.
Thanks AGuest for your viewpoint, I appreciate that you explain your view this thoroughly and with full dedication.
With Pontius words, but what is truth. Still, as I am tempted to speculate around lots of things, more about this counting of anointed. I found where the bad anointed article was referenced. It is in this thread, copied there by St. George.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/200926/1/Annointed-Elder-Publicly-Reproved
CP
i was expecting to just get examined then told it was nothing to worry about but i also had a mamogram , then scan .
the lump i was worried about was ok but the scanner found one behind it that she was not sure about , she took a biopsy from it after i had a local anesthetic and sent me back to the doctor who told me i would now have to wait a week for those results !
when i had arrived i was told i would be told today if everything is ok !
I hope it is not what the worst case scenario would be. I know several ladies that have survived breast cancer, actually I do not personally know any that have died of it. It is mentally very hard time to get cured, all the treatments take their toll, weighing your options must be pressing too. But after, those I know have fully recovered and are actually enjoying life even more than before.
CP
a few of my friends who also used to be jw's, say they miss certain things abt it...i can honestly say that i don't miss a single thing (my sister obviously who's still in but nothing else).. before i could sometimes miss having such a strong belief but that's also gone.
i guess i've moved on big time.
/newborn.
Absolutelly, I miss the frankfurters, meat pies, pastries and candy at conventions. But they were removed already years ago. And the warm food was not that bad either.
I could have got these in sport events too, but for some funny reason I did not attend those that much.
CP
hey here we go!!!.
they will need to buy some more crackers and cheap wine for next year now.
what are the borg going to concocked now to cover there ass with the number of morons going up again at the memorial 2010 ?.
What kind of lies are you handling with shampoo
hey here we go!!!.
they will need to buy some more crackers and cheap wine for next year now.
what are the borg going to concocked now to cover there ass with the number of morons going up again at the memorial 2010 ?.
If we assume for just short period of time that idea of 144.000 is right? Here was earlier in autumn a discussion about wrongdoing anointed, and attached was writing in WT/Aw from 50's I think. It stated something that anointed who fail will not be replaced until they die, as they could actually turn back. If this assumption would be the correct one, the raising partaker figures would actually make sense. The 30's generation is dying at this very moment. If we speculate further, lot's of fallen anointed could have died lately and must be replaced. This is ofcourse pure speculation and based on too old light, but I find it interesting. Funny enough this option have not been mentioned in any WT material as explanation for raising partaker figures. China is still not open so it cannot come from there either.
In very speculative mood
CP
well because i knew the questions would be the same on saturday as they were friday i was even more prepared.
my mom has this pattern of repeating the same questions over and over again...she will leave it for a few hours & then she will cycle them over again, but then ask more detail.. so saturday she calls me before i leave for home and now she is backpedalling her story.
she tells me that the elder's never said that they were going to disfellowship me, they just were counseling her that she should no longer be associating with me because i am bad association and have been seen with "him" (again with the him) and that his car has been seen parked there all the time.
CHG, thanks for explanation. And good for you that you are able to operate even from selfish point of view. These are things that concern foremost yourself and secondary others. Going unselfish path would look very different indeed.
CP
