Posts by clearpoison

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FADERS: How determined are you?

by VampireDCLXV in

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after being here on jwn for a while, one does see a spectrum of sorts.

there are people here in various stages of their exit from their lives as jws.

some are full fledged kh and fs attendees whom we call "the conscious class".

clearpoison

So I ask you faders: how determined are you to never return to life as a JW?

For me it's not about determination, it would just feel wrong for me based on my current understanding

Do you still miss old JW "friends"?

Friends? Those few I had closer relationsship still wouldn't count as friends, so no.

Do you miss the company of JW relatives?

It has never been endangered, we have had as long as I remember a habit of keeping familyties in one place and religious differences in another.

Do even the smallest of thoughts that maybe, just maybe, the JWs are right about some things, still haunt the darkest corners of you mind?

It really do not matter if they are right or not, I do not care in any manner about the thruthfulness of their teaching. My issues are purely personal and are not debendant JW's being right or wrong.

Do you still have the occasional nightmare about dying during the big A?

If JW's are right that is what is going to happen to me (unless I die other kind of unnatural death before), if not I will die in another way. So no nightmares there it's one optional reality for me.

Lingering doubts might be sabotaging you. The sooner you shed your doubts about yourself and the reasons your leaving, the sooner you can heal.

I agree, I had fortunatelly years to come to my personal conclusion. In my opinion as long as you do the right thing for yourself, is it being hardcore/softcore witness or totally something else, you must feel comfortable with the decision you made.

So I ask faders here again: how far along are you in your exit and are you doubting yourself?

Exiting or staying is totally equal to me, as whatever happens I do not want to enter the paradise as it is described.

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Straddling the fence or leading a double life.

by garyneal in

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friends

a subject that i know a lot of you can relate to.

my wife admits to leading a double life in regards to her spiritual activities.

it comes with the territory, i suppose.

clearpoison

Thanks for sharing, your situation seem lots less complicated than mine based on this.

The answer to your question is very clear in my head. It's lots cheaper, I would do that too.

CP

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When you were a JW did you dance " provocatively" ?

by highdose in

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friends

" provocatively" of course meaning alot.

in my cong it meant moving your body in any way at all.. the spirtual ones of the cong of course would not dance and if they did would do a kinda slow motion running type dance.

totaly embassring to look at.. .

clearpoison

Does dancing in goofy way in techno raves count?

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15

JW teenagers party's

by bigmac in

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i fondly remember my teenage days as a jw--back in the 1960's.. circuit assemblies-in birmingham, england uk.

after the sunday afternoon god-fest there was usually a party--somewhere--in the evening.. one of the lads--his parents were care-takers (janitors?

) of an office block in the city centre.

clearpoison

Oh boy, I can tell you that in 80's-90's we partied like it was the last day. But hey, it could have been. Certainly not the like of parties you would like to talk with your parents about or with elders for that matter. But there was always a little squarrel present who could not keep the mouth shut, so it was time of frequent interrogations. There happened so much that they could really take action for gross sins only and just had to look through fingers all those minor incidents. I was considered a good kid so I was more asked, but not subjected, I never told them anything.

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English-language congregations in non-English speaking countries

by dgp in

i am under the impression that english-language congregations outside of the united states must serve a purpose, other than just being the place where the missionaries can hang out and catch the occasional english speaker.

i think it's also a way to find the smarter guys in other countries and teach them the language and the jargon they will need if they ever climb up the watchtower corporate ladder.. what do people think?.

thanks.

clearpoison

Here the english congregations are kind of collection point for foreigners from both english-speaking countries and various languagegroups that are not big enough to have their own native language congregation. Ofcourse these congregations also attract many locals, wishing to use english more in everyday life. Even Gilead applicants like to participate in english congregation, for obvious reasons.

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"We missed you SO much at the meeting...."

by Duncan in

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clearpoison

IE9 works fine if you put this site to compatibility mode.

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Today's WT lesson: Desperate for more MS. How many get appointed 1 yr after baptism?

by Open mind in

today's wt lesson: serving jehovah with all seriousness, excerpt from paragraph 11:.

"if a brother has been baptized at least one year and to a reasonable degree meets the scriptural qualifications for ministerial servants outlined at 1 timothy 3:8-13, he can be recommended for appointment.".

how often have you seen someone become a ministerial servant one year after baptism?

clearpoison

This all sounds so cool.

I always wanted to retain my originality and edges, so never ever even dreamt of reaching for privileges. That I decided already as teen. It worked well I was left alone except for one occassion where they mentioned considering me. I cut the consideration and asked them not to think in those paths. Aah the peace.

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'Great Crowd' of 12 people get baptised at District Convention!!!

by burnedout in

yesterday, out of 4,035 people in attendance at the dc, only 12 people were baptized.

that is one more than eleventeen and one less than a baker's dozen.. .

want to take a guess as to the age group of this 'great crowd?

clearpoison

In last years in my former circuit the CA/SAD had no baptisees in two cases of three for some years. Speaker always announced that it looks like we do not have anyone going to get baptised, but the speech will still be of great benefit to all of us, specially for them who are considering to get baptised later. It was indeed benefitial, the lunchbreak started some five minutes earlier.

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Amazing Awake Experience, Former druggie looks up JWs in the phone book and starts studying

by LostGeneration in

no looking up jws on the internet first?

and uses a phone book, who even owns a phone book anymore?.

here is the an "experience" from pg 7 of the august 2011 awake.. my teenage years were a blur of alcohol,.

clearpoison

Interesting though that as far as I remember this is a first notification where rock is seen in positive light, she is referring easy rock as something she enjoys. I have hard time thinking that back then when easy rock was invented it would have been written as agreeable music. So much for standards that stay the tooth of time.

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Amazing Awake Experience, Former druggie looks up JWs in the phone book and starts studying

by LostGeneration in

no looking up jws on the internet first?

and uses a phone book, who even owns a phone book anymore?.

here is the an "experience" from pg 7 of the august 2011 awake.. my teenage years were a blur of alcohol,.

clearpoison

Well my maths tell that this crabbing of phonebook happened seven years ago. I have no problem relating to reading phonebook back then.

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