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  Drinking at meetings / assemblies / conventions ... who's done it?

  by HarryMac in

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  for me .... 1).

  last district convention after having 'read up' (took some family to it).. 2).

  last 'meeting' to watch step-father-in-law finally get his and get disfellowshipped for molestation.. ...both were taking vodka shots in the bathroom.. i'm sure there's lots of good stories out there..

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  clearpoison

  It was the happy seventies

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  CO's comments about loved ones vs. JW.ORG

  by DATA-DOG in

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  this information is from a friends co visit.

  enjoy.. jw.org faq's.

  do you feel that you are the only people who will be saved?00:0000:00. no.

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  clearpoison

  This is very logical thought. The teaching has been that no bad things will be remembered in the new order. I think missing people that did not made it through would make you sad and therefore be bad. I have no idea how they reason this, is it so that you really would not even remember the bunch of people that had significance for you in your "past" life, or will you remember them but have no feelings about them?

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  Drinking at meetings / assemblies / conventions ... who's done it?

  by HarryMac in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me .... 1).

  last district convention after having 'read up' (took some family to it).. 2).

  last 'meeting' to watch step-father-in-law finally get his and get disfellowshipped for molestation.. ...both were taking vodka shots in the bathroom.. i'm sure there's lots of good stories out there..

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  In the good old days when there was food service at conventions even beer was offered. Light yes but with alcohol in it. So yes, have been drinking at convention without need to hide it.

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  What naughty things are JWs allowed to do?

  by usualusername in

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  in most healthy societies people are allowed to do naughty things without feelings of guilt.. .

  what naughty things can jws do?.

  my naughtiest moment was rounding up 55mins to an hr in my ministry!

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  For those with low christian standards

  In extreme cases caress your spouses breasts.

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  Have you ever explain why the Watchtower strongly discourage higher education to non jws?

  by Iamallcool in

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  how did you explain it to them?

  how did they react?

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  Yes, I did. I was telling that JW look forward this order of things going down and don't think they should use any extra effort to learn new things in the current system. All they (we) need to learn for life in paradise is taught within the religion.

  They were like OK sounds logical if you believe that way.

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  If Someone Goes To The Memorial It's A Huge Deal! Do You Know Why???

  by minimus in

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  i believe that if a non regular meeting attender shows up for at least the memorial "celebration", it's a sign, that possibly, the person is saveable.

  not all hope is lost for them.. i heard that last year, the rumour was that i was going to show up and sit with my mother....(of course, that never happened).. so, if you attended or if your family member or wayward friend showed up, they might have a chance for everlasting (earthly) life, after all!.

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  We were told in several occasions (speech, CO visit, assemblies) that as witnesses were (back then) over 6 millions the attendant count in memorial showed the true immediate potential. It would have been about the double amount witnesses if all those in memorial audience could be converted (sorry that word was forbidden). If they cared so much that they attended memorial it shouldn't be that difficult to encourage them to other meetings too.

  I think that was very easy way to tell the people that we are going to right direction, look what we could achieve if we just would do even more and better. If memorial attendance would have been the same as in regular meeting it could have led people thinking what is the point.

  The eager interested ones you could attract to regular meetings, but only other occasions where you could show your interested studies or magazine routes physically were actually memorial and assemblies in some extent.

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  If Someone Goes To The Memorial It's A Huge Deal! Do You Know Why???

  by minimus in

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  i believe that if a non regular meeting attender shows up for at least the memorial "celebration", it's a sign, that possibly, the person is saveable.

  not all hope is lost for them.. i heard that last year, the rumour was that i was going to show up and sit with my mother....(of course, that never happened).. so, if you attended or if your family member or wayward friend showed up, they might have a chance for everlasting (earthly) life, after all!.

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  Have you heard about the steps those trying to reach soberness take for example in AA. The first step is always the most significant. The same applies here.

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  Any "inappropriate" or "saucy" conversations out in Field Service car groups???

  by Gojira_101 in

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  i thought of one that happened to me, i think i was 16 and regular pioneering at the time.

  i was in fs with my friend, i think she had to be about 18, and we were in a van with older married sisters, my friend and i were the only single ones.

  there were 6 of us in this van and my friend and i of course were forced to sit in the back (meaning we couldn't escape by jumping out of a moving van), anyway, the conversation turned to discussing molestation.. the two oldest sisters sitting in the front then started going into detail about how they had been molested, and it wasn't just "i was molested by..." no they went into detail.. i was shocked!

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  What happens in the car, stays in the car.

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  Who of you ever lied on your field service reports?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i've read a few people mention making up the figures for the field service reports, and i want to find out how common it is.

  i never lied on my report.

  sometimes i'd round up 15 minutes if i'd mentioned jw stuff to my brother that month, but that wasn't falsifying.

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  I did, until I realised I was only kidding myself.

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  Clapping at the meetings and assembly

  by NewYork44M in

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  i had a random thought this morning about clapping.

  growing up in the wt culture i learned the proper protocol for clapping.

  before the assembly speaker gave his talk, but not after.

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  clearpoison

  I don't find this practise weird at all. Programmed clapping gives structure and certain worthiness to shows and spectacles. Any of you seen what happens in Chinese and North-Korean party congresses? How spontanious is clapping in American, German or Italian talk-shows, as far as I know they are equipped with huge applause signs that are lid at pre-programmed points. Or again been watching teen movies, there is always that magical moment after which one kid starts "spontanious" clapping, and how weird was that in Another Teen Movie when he could not get his timing right.

  Clapping seems to be significant human signal, but how often it is really spontanious? Very seldom is my guess. Meetings and assemblies are shows and spectacles in same manner as any other show, and clapping just belongs there, at proper, often pre-designed, time.

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