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  Assembly/Convention Accounting

  by dontplaceliterature in

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  just having had my circuit assembly recently, i felt that the expenses in a watchtower-owned building seemed extremely over-inflated.

  over $9000 for two days.

  there were approximately 750-800 in attendance each day.

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  clearpoison

  Well, the organisation owns the property and circuit is actually just renting it. It is up to the parties to agree what is the rental amount and what it is based on, it could be lump sum or based on as it seems on amount of participants (transactional cost). For some reason circuits are not operating regular procurement strategy where they would rfp some suitable premises and choose the best one based on cost/benefit calculation. It could be that organisations premises might win, if they price their services reasonably, but could also loose. But I don't see this happening very much at least.

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  looky looky - A 'real' J-dub forum! (are they becoming normal???)

  by Reality79 in

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  so did the 'da society' give these dub internet savvies permission to start a forum?

  because last i checked, the ole boys in their oversized brooklyn bunker didn't want their members on the internet unless it was to view their own official websites.

  i thought maybe it was an apostate forum until i read their long winded, typically condescending jdub style membership guidelines:.

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  clearpoison

  What was funny with the H2H game was that there is a conductor (obviously game elder) who do nothing but makes service records and interprets things from publications. He may not go from H2H, just sit and conduct.

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  looky looky - A 'real' J-dub forum! (are they becoming normal???)

  by Reality79 in

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  2. friends

  so did the 'da society' give these dub internet savvies permission to start a forum?

  because last i checked, the ole boys in their oversized brooklyn bunker didn't want their members on the internet unless it was to view their own official websites.

  i thought maybe it was an apostate forum until i read their long winded, typically condescending jdub style membership guidelines:.

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  Serenity said,

  OMG! What loser came up with this? I think the game is actually worse than going out in service!

  But you see, it is in accordance to magnific family appreciation evening true believers should follow.

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  looky looky - A 'real' J-dub forum! (are they becoming normal???)

  by Reality79 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so did the 'da society' give these dub internet savvies permission to start a forum?

  because last i checked, the ole boys in their oversized brooklyn bunker didn't want their members on the internet unless it was to view their own official websites.

  i thought maybe it was an apostate forum until i read their long winded, typically condescending jdub style membership guidelines:.

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  clearpoison

  They have nice list of JW related links, I appreciated this extra much.

  http://www.theocraticgames.com/

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  What makes leg warmers attractive on a woman?

  by miseryloveselders in

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  whats the science on leg warmers?

  why is that i can see a woman with socks on and it does absolutely nothing for me, but i see leg warmers, and i'm intrigued?.

  not hot.

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  clearpoison

  In one of the BTS videos I found this similar feature, that might explain it very well, with matching lyrics ofcourse.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL7kXyRIB1o&feature=player_embedded

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  Are JWs the worst restaurant customers?

  by Alfred in

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  (a little background info before i ask my question...).

  my sister-in-law (non-jw), who manages a popular chain restaurant near a kingdom hall, just found out that my wife and i have recently faded, so she decided to get something off her chest the other day... you guessed it: she wanted us to know that jws are the worst customers ever!

  she then told us some really embarrassing stories about how jws would request a table for 15 to 20 people (after a sunday meeting) and then (when the bill came) some of the jws would start deliberating amongst themselves on whether or not the waiter was diligent or not (to justify the low tip he was getting anyway).

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  clearpoison

  Reading all this makes me just love my cultural environment so much more. Service and all taxes statutory included in price and tipping is truly voluntary and not automatically expected. On the other hand I'm in trouble in other parts of the world.

  But staying in subject, have been asked even here sometimes by brothers and sisters why I'm tipping (because the food was great or service outstanding!), they claim they would not do it even in their wildest dreams. However these are minority, thankfully. In overall I think it would be kind to make pre-booking for groups of over 6-7 persons.

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  I ended up in the back room of the KH today

  by Nobleheart in

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  our public talk and wt study is on saturdays.

  i was informed by an elder that i shouldn't leave right away after the meeting.. immediately i had a sinking feeling in my stomach.

  but not as bad as i would have felt about it months ago.

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  Oh boy,

  I can already see the headlines. "See what happens to those that start studying, aren't those reminders we get about education from slave class just on spot. See what happened to Nobleheart, pioneer and all...."

  In the long run you must do the thing you feel is right. If going in steps with all related announcements (ending pioneering, marking speech, etc. etc.) is not your style, then there is not many options left, being involved in something DFable (quick confession/non repenting maybe) or announcing your disbelief in some recordable way. In whichever case there will be speech about you, without names mentioned, sooner or later.

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  Are women more spiritual then men?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before you women jump all over me, this is just a observation.. first of all at least in this country women out number men in religion,.

  across the board,(jw,s,baptist, catholic etc.

  ) you walk in any church.

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  clearpoison

  Dear Murray,

  As this is a lilliput country I rather not reveal it, for respect to my stillin family. But from my writing style you can calculate away all Anglo-American countries.

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  Are women more spiritual then men?

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  before you women jump all over me, this is just a observation.. first of all at least in this country women out number men in religion,.

  across the board,(jw,s,baptist, catholic etc.

  ) you walk in any church.

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  clearpoison

  Yes they are, funny enough this has been even confirmed in some countries legislation. For example in my lilliput country's legislation the mother's faith is designing what religious group the child is considered belonging to, before coming mature enough to decide thing on their own. Mother and father can ofcourse agree mutually about this, but before certain age mother can unilaterally decide the religious nomination for her child, without father's concent.

  From JW organisation point of view in these days, my observation is, that women are in great majority. When they are married, they often act as the glue that keeps the man operational in organisation. This was the case for me also for decades, on my own I would have gone bad for years ago. My educated guess is that this applies to many other religious movements too.

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  No Independent Thinking?

  by FrankWTower in

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  correct me if i'm wrong, but i think i just realized another wt contradiction.

  i read a critical analysis of the origin of life and was life created brochures called "weighed and found wanting" (which is exellent by the way and recommend it, it's here somewhere).

  as i read along on the brochures i finally noticed how the society makes constant appeals to your own common sense and intuition.

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  clearpoison

  You see, these piece of works were not designed to inner circle but as tools to convince outsiders. Proportionally how many times book studies move on based on reading through the printed word compared to generating debate/discussion around the theme of the day? Even though these books have been studied on book studies the concept have been based on the knowledge that more or less all people allready believe in stuff, making these questions rethorical and of academic worth only. On the other hand how many outsiders are aware that independent thinking and reasoning are, if not totally banned at least partially discouraged within organisation.

  Whatever happened to concept of making the thruth your own?

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