She is still alive, right?
There have to be people on this board who know her personally. What is her situation? How is her health? Has the sell of Ray's books adequately supported her?
Just curious.
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Who's taking care of Cynthia Franz?
by irondork inshe is still alive, right?.
there have to be people on this board who know her personally.
what is her situation?
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Sentence in Priest Beating: Jehovahs Witness member gets six months
by sizemik insentence in priest beating: jehovahs witness member gets six monthsphoto: epress.am.
ter yesayi artenyan.
by gohar abrahamyan.
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irondork
Kinda like drug dealers killing drug dealers.
Oh, look! There's a sale at Macy's!
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irondork
Do you suppose anyone on the GB or the writing committee was blushing when they sent this to print?
Just a little bit, maybe?
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So I was on the toilet taking a Watchtower when...
by irondork in.
... it suddenly occurred to me: "free at last, free at last.
thank god almighty, (i am) free at last.
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- ... it suddenly occurred to me: "Free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty, (I am) free at last."
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The "Generation." what is the latest New Light Regarding It? CO from Fresno Area Confused Me!
by AvocadoJake inthe co who is covering the central valley, mentioned how easy this concept is to understand.
in his talk, he said many of the friends had made a "big deal, over little.
he used the "titanic analogy, used the space shuttle analogy.
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Titanic? Shuttle?
One is rotting on the ocean floor and the other is retired and no longer flying. Could that be the analogy?
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todays WT study...the picture...?
by stillin ini wish i could scan it and get your thoughts.
it was a picture of a happy group of witnesses during a meeting for field service.
there was a. comment from a local high-horse-rider about a brother in the front row in the picture being disobedient.
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No, no, no! You're all wrong.
It's the closet homosexual toward the back with the pink shirt... *gasp*... trying to add a hint of color to the spiritual paradise.
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LeavingWT's DA letter
by irondork inthe blood issue has been an ongoing arguement between the roomie and me.
not heated, by any means, but she keeps qouting back established wts reasoning on the subject.
"it's feeding, jason.
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EDIT: It was an AWAKE article:
June 8, 2006
"Some argue that this God-given restriction applies only to the eating of blood, but the word “abstain” speaks for itself. If a doctor told us to abstain from alcohol, we would hardly feel at liberty to inject it into our veins."
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LeavingWT's DA letter
by irondork inthe blood issue has been an ongoing arguement between the roomie and me.
not heated, by any means, but she keeps qouting back established wts reasoning on the subject.
"it's feeding, jason.
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bft123: I knew people who the doctor told them not to drink alchole anymore, or they would die. so instead they started shotting it into their arm with a needle, they still died from cirrossis of the liver, anything you put in your system you feed on.
I think what bft123 meant here was that she knew and old Watchtower article that used this analogy and decided to present it as one of her own first hand experiences.
She made the truth her own.
bft123: do not use blood if you can help it. as it is the worst thing that you could do to the human body.
I don't know about the "worst thing", but I have heard from other sources that it's tougher on the body than using the blood alternatives. I think ER docs probably reach for the blood a little too carelessly just because they don't have to think about it. Where possible, I would rather use anything but blood products. But when it come down to crunch time... blood it is.
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1980s Watchtower Society Publications as pdf?
by Libarian indoes any one have a pdf file of the following watchtower society publication:.
1976 - holy spirit the force behind the coming new order!.
1983 (revised 1989) - organized to accomplish our ministry.
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irondork
Okay, I'll bite. Whatcha working on?
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"Feeling sorry for yourself" about being hit by your husband is not Christian 2/15/12 WT Page 25 P 12
by yourmomma inhave anyone of you read, the absolutly jaw dropping paragraph in this article about a women who was hit by her husband?
its in page 25 of the 2/15/12 wt study edition (i read the dumbed down version).. .
if there was any question, that the watchtowers stance is for wives to simply take it when their husbands abuse them, this makes it crystal clear.. who the hell is scanning these things before they go to print?
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Anony Mous, thanks for the format. I tinkered with it a little and am gathering addresses for the U.S. Carolinas areas.
Nice idea.
I recently read an article in the latest edition of the Watchtower magazine, a periodical published by Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide. I was appalled by the advice it gave to battered women on page 29 of it's February 15, 2012 internal circulation of the publication (not intended for the public since it publishes doctrinal issues) but still available at: http://jw.org
I will share the portion here:
Consider the case of Selma. When she began to study the Bible with Jehovah’s Witnesses, her husband, Steve, was not pleased. He admits, “I became angry, jealous, possessive, and insecure.” Selma observes: “Even before I got the truth, living with Steve was like walking on eggshells. He was hot-tempered. When I started studying the Bible, this characteristic intensified.” What helped?
Selma recalls a lesson she learned from the Witness who studied with her. “On one particular day,” says Selma, “I didn’t want to have a Bible study. The night before, Steve had hit me as I had tried to prove a point, and I was feeling sad and sorry for myself. After I told the sister what had happened and how I felt, she asked me to read 1 Corinthians 13:4-7. As I did, I began to reason, ‘Steve never does any of these loving things for me.’ But the sister made me think differently by asking, ‘How many of those acts of love do you show to- ward your husband?’ My answer was, ‘None, for he is so difficult to live with.’ The sister softly said, ‘Selma, who is trying to be a Christian here? You or Steve?’ Realizing that I needed to adjust my thinking, I prayed to Jehovah to help me be more loving toward Steve. Slowly, things started to change.” After 17 years, Steve accepted the truth.
The thing that struck me as appalling was the insinuation that domestic violence should be tolerated in order for this woman, and all women reading this article, to be considered “Christian”. The scriptural account referenced says, in part: Love…does not become provoked. It does not keep account of the injury… It bears all things…endures all things. The motivation behind this counsel was stated as being the eventual conversion of the husband into the Jehovah’s Witness religion; with recruitment apparently being a far greater goal than the safety and protection of the women inside that organization.
This is an obscene manipulation of bible counsel for the sake of gaining more members into their organization and a blatant disregard for women, and likely children in that kind of environment, around the world.
I realize the article in this magazine may be specifically targeted towards this particular religious group and I respect anyone's decision to adhere to certain religious doctrine, but I believe that this sort of advice should not be perpetuated by churches and church leaders.
It is my hope that awareness of these types of articles can help you in your goal of helping women locally.