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  1975 coverup! Compare the '68 and '81 Truth book scans

  by JimmyPage in

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  the wt society pointed to 1975 as the date for the end of the world.

  when the date came and went they changed their publications to remove themselves from the fiasco.

  need proof?

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  bookmarked
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  "...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of Watchtower Society and of the holy spirit "

  by irondork in

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  if baptism is really a symbol of one's dedication to god, as the wts agrees it is, then why would someone who was baptized years earlier need to be re-baptized after studying with jehovah's witnesses?

  in discussing the two questions asked of baptismal candidates, the watchtower, april 1, 2006, page 22 par 4 says:.

  therefore, those who qualify for baptism have usually studied the bible for months or even a year or two, so that their decision is neither hasty nor ill-informed.

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  irondork

  N.Drew: Or are you saying someone who was baptized as a, let's say, Baptist should get baptized again as a JW according to JW doctrine?

  This is what I meant. Sorry my OP wasn't clear. (One of these days I'm going to learn not to post until my blood/caffeine levels are proportional for the day.)

  If baptism is about a persons dedication to God and someone has already made that dedication, why should changing religions necessitate a re-baptism. Why do the JW believe it is necessary to rededicate your life to God in the name of the Watchtower instead of just letting that person's Yes mean Yes and his No mean No with regard to the dedication he has already made?
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  "...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of Watchtower Society and of the holy spirit "

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if baptism is really a symbol of one's dedication to god, as the wts agrees it is, then why would someone who was baptized years earlier need to be re-baptized after studying with jehovah's witnesses?

  in discussing the two questions asked of baptismal candidates, the watchtower, april 1, 2006, page 22 par 4 says:.

  therefore, those who qualify for baptism have usually studied the bible for months or even a year or two, so that their decision is neither hasty nor ill-informed.

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  irondork

  If it's a matter of rededicating ones self to God after coming to a more accurate knowledge of him, shouldn't the GB get redunked every time they have noo light?
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  "...baptizing them in the name of the Father and of Watchtower Society and of the holy spirit "

  by irondork in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if baptism is really a symbol of one's dedication to god, as the wts agrees it is, then why would someone who was baptized years earlier need to be re-baptized after studying with jehovah's witnesses?

  in discussing the two questions asked of baptismal candidates, the watchtower, april 1, 2006, page 22 par 4 says:.

  therefore, those who qualify for baptism have usually studied the bible for months or even a year or two, so that their decision is neither hasty nor ill-informed.

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  irondork

  If baptism is really a symbol of one's dedication to God, as the WTS agrees it is, then why would someone who was baptized years earlier need to be re-baptized after studying with Jehovah's Witnesses? In discussing the two questions asked of baptismal candidates, the Watchtower, April 1, 2006, page 22 par 4 says:

  Therefore, those who qualify for baptism have usually studied the Bible for months or even a year or two, so that their decision is neither hasty nor ill-informed. At the baptism itself, the candidates answer yes to two key questions. Since Jesus emphasized that ‘our Yes should mean Yes, our No, No,’ it will be helpful for all of us to review carefully the significance of these two baptismal questions.

  Re-baptizing someone who has already been baptized undermines this point.

  In ancient times it was customary to rename a person to show your dominance over him. I guess re-baptizing a person the the name of Jehovah's Witnesses serves the same purpose.
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  Which way would you run?

  by usualusername in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm7yawpx1mc&feature=bf_next&list=fl868j_zisuing3g1hj8rtjw.

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  which way would you run?.

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  irondork

  Oh my! Usualusername, what did you do?
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  I'm not a camper. I don't see the point in pretending you are homeless

  by wha happened? in

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  i used to camp alot as a kid.

  i was in cub scouts and boy scouts.

  dad and i went to lot's of camping trips.

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  irondork

  Well, I tried to embed this:

  http://youtu.be/BLWTblCSswY
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  I'm not a camper. I don't see the point in pretending you are homeless

  by wha happened? in

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  i used to camp alot as a kid.

  i was in cub scouts and boy scouts.

  dad and i went to lot's of camping trips.

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  Pray for strength and guidance

  by StopTheTears in

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  i have a prayer request, and i don't know exactly how to explain it.

  we all have sins that we battle, fall back into, and then regret having fallen back into.

  mine is gluttony.

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  irondork

  Stop the Tears... you are SO not alone. I also have a past with alcoholism but I have found myself turning toward food when I am stressed. The process of leaving the organization has caused several empty donut boxes to pass through myback yard to the garbage bins. I always feel awful afterward.

  Hang in there, keep trying and keep in mind you are just human. Beating yourself over it won't help you. I liked Greybeards very kind response and advise.
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  Are Your Morals The Same As When You Were A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  even if you consider yourself a moral person, would you say that you are as honest, faithful, or any different than you were as a jw?.

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  irondork

  No!

  I care more about people now.
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  1899, 1900, 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, ..........

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  well, nothing happened.

  i guess i gotta go some more.. .

  i will ahead a bit.. .

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  irondork

  LouBelle, at some point I must have given you the impression that I am still in the organization. Granted, I have made statements in sarcasm that may have made it seem that way, but rest assured I am as out as out can be.

  Thanks for the concern though. That was sweet.