OneDay, that was a fine piece of work.
Good advise about giving your father room and time to digest this new information. Think about the time it took for your own awakening.
irondork
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I think I've planted a seed!
by OneDayillBeFree ini could be wrong, but i can't help but be a bit optimistic.last night my parents and i had our "family worship night".
i hate it, and i believe my mother does too.
my dad only does it because he's an elder but last night even he was acting like he didnt want to do it.
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The watchtower is making some dangerous enemies
by 20yearfader inthis weekend i spent time with a friend that i haven't seen since high school,that would be 22 years.he grew up the same way i did being a born in.he and i both received our share of beatings related to the wt org coming to the hall without a song book not getting a comment low hours in field service etc....where we differ is the fact that his stepdad was beating him with his fist i got the belt or a stick.he would come to school with black eyes due to his infractions with the hall.after we left schoo we lost touch since he was still living at home an going to the meetings and i wasn't, kicked out at 17 so that ending my time with the org.he stayed at home until 21 still getting his fair share of beatings due to any sort of failing that had to do with the org.he left after one beating and joined the marines,he was dfed.while in the marines he told me he asked an got sniper training becoming a deadly shot,he also told me he always volunteered for the most dangerous missions.i can see that he was doing this to escape the pain of his upbringing even to his subconscious mind secrectly hoping to die on one of these missions.he tells me he has some sort of nerve disability that will progress until he cant walk,he has hearing loss due to a grenade going off by his head'he knows one day he will be in a wheelchair disabled it's only a matter of time.he hasn't spoke to his mother and his family in over 20 years they care nothing about him not even returning the calls he leaves on there answering machine,he told me he calls once a month for the past 20 years.sitting here at my house he says out of the clear blue you know i've thought a lot about going to brooklyn and with the skills i have i could do a lot of damage to those men that have ruined my life.i talked him out of it i think,i told him about this site where he could come to vent,because i think he needs to vent badly.i don't know what will happen to him when he is told his quality of life will get worse and if he will revisit the idea of lashing out at what he thinks has ruin his life,i don't know what he will do and even though i think i talked him out of doing anything,can i really say i blame him.i'm in the same boat my family is fractured broken all because of some men,men in brooklyn that hold more control over my family than i can,i wonder do thay ever think about the countless people that they affect with there shunning methods how many broken families they leave in there wake.i will say one thing there are many others out there that think the way my friend does i feel it's only a matter of time before karma comes a knocking..
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1984 jw book
by turtleturtle incan anyone please send a link to the orwellian jehovah's witnesses book in pdf or epub?
thanks.
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irondork
Free download: http://www.planetebook.com/1984.asp
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Safety Annoucement on SCAMS
by free2beme ini work in a line of work where i have to help people who have suffered from scams a lot.
so i thought i would pass on some thoughts to people here, to maybe prevent you from having these scams take money or time from you.
oh, and as much as some of these seem obvious ... people fall for them daily and constantly.. 1. an american citizen can not win a foriegn lottery.
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irondork
Good old common... whut?
Whut is this thing you speak of?
Thanks for the reminders, free2beme and jw07. LOL
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Ripping a persons faith away, a heavy responsibility?
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Mouthy Grace is not well. Please send love.
by return of parakeet inin another thread, mouthy said she was "not well" and mentioned "kicking the bucket.
i believe she needs some encouragement and well wishes.. mouthy, you don't need to respond to this thread if you don't feel up to it.
just consider it an exceptionally long get-well card..
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irondork
... a very sincere get well card.
You are a treasure to this forum.
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July 2013 WT husband reading
by gma-tired2 inmy husband asked me to print the wt 7/13 wt for him.
his mom usually calls him during month of may, he wants to be prepared.
his response,(can only read small amount at one time).
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JakeM2012: ...and the sister said, "Another study with scriptures sited that there is no way that if you just read the bible you can get their interpretation".
See brothers and sisters. This is why we don't want you reading your bible alone, without the Watchtower literature to guide you. If you do, you will return to the teachings of Christondom.
Tsk. Tsk.
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Who really are the FOOD SERVERS?
by irondork inat a convention in washington, d.c., 1935, j.f.
rutherford announced the identity of the great multitude, of revelation 7:9 as being the other sheep of john 10:16.. i dont remember if i heard it in a talk or read it in a piece of literature, but i remember some commentary about how the governing body of that time finally came to this understanding.
they had been struggling with the identity of this great crowd, even speculating that this group would occupy a lower station in heaven than those who would serve with christ as kings and priests.
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Yeah.... that's what I meant.
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Who really are the FOOD SERVERS?
by irondork inat a convention in washington, d.c., 1935, j.f.
rutherford announced the identity of the great multitude, of revelation 7:9 as being the other sheep of john 10:16.. i dont remember if i heard it in a talk or read it in a piece of literature, but i remember some commentary about how the governing body of that time finally came to this understanding.
they had been struggling with the identity of this great crowd, even speculating that this group would occupy a lower station in heaven than those who would serve with christ as kings and priests.
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At a convention in Washington, D.C., 1935, J.F. Rutherford announced the identity of “The Great Multitude,” of Revelation 7:9 as being the “other sheep” of John 10:16.
I don’t remember if I heard it in a talk or read it in a piece of literature, but I remember some commentary about how the “governing body” of that time finally came to this understanding. They had been struggling with the identity of this “great crowd”, even speculating that this group would occupy a lower station in heaven than those who would serve with Christ as kings and priests. They speculated further that this lower station might be the result of being possibly less righteous for some reason.
Finally, God’s Holy Spirit jumped into action and Bethel began receiving letters from around the world, written by several members of the genuinely anointed class. These letters suggested unanimously that this great crowd was the group that would inherit the earth.
The sudden arrival of letters, all in agreement, was presented as evidence that God was using his faithful and discreet slave to provide food at the proper time.
Well, we now know that only members of the governing body are used in that capacity which begs the question: Who was really behind that burst of new light back in 1935?
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What do you think a witness would say when shown this quote?
by BU2B inwhat do you think a witness would say when shown this quote, then the proof of the 1914, 1925 predictions?.
"true, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date.
yet nothing happened.
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irondork
Add this one to your mix:
