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  What were you doing 25 years ago today....

  by Magwitch in

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  when the challenger exploded?.

  i was dutifully going door to door to door, when a lady came to the door crying about the cahllenger.

  she invited me in and i placed a set of magazines.

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  Nobleheart

  I was 2 so I don't remember much.
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  Made up field service experience at yesterday's Public Talk

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  remember the made up stories of witnesses in djibouti,africa where they had to walk 2 days in alligator infested waters with no shoes in the blazing sun to attend the meetings?

  they made it to the meetings in these terrible conditions.. talk about made up stories!

  here is a field service experience that was told at yesterday's public talk which would fall into the made up stories!.

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  Nobleheart

  @ Boyzone

  Your story about the pioneer with great housekeeping skills was told in exact detail here in my country too (East Europe), with the only difference being that the pioneer was supposed to be not from the US, but rather a local sister. DagothUr heard it too in Romania, so I guess it's a favourite among COs.
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  I said I would do it and I just did, told my mom I want nothing to do with the org anymore

  by Soldier77 in

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  i would copy and paste my emails with my mom, but that would probably be too revealing.. anyway, i said in a post a while back that i was going to tell my mom i no longer want anything to do with the organization.

  there have been a series of emails between the two of us lately and she was probing to see what was going on with me.

  i haven't been out in fs in almost a year and i haven't been to a thursday night mtg in over 9 months.

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  Nobleheart

  I'm really happy you let out your real feelings about the org. I can truly relate to the fact that talking about these things with family can be extremely emotionally draining. It's great that your mum didn't react in a negative way. You're lucky to have such an understanding parent.
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  Paul, leading authority on Christianity, does NOT quote Jesus!

  by Terry in

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  paul's letters practically invent christianity.. the gospels trickled in after him.. paul never walked with jesus and yet explains him.. never a quote from the master at all.. yet, paul is such a maven.. if jesus couldn't be bothered to actually reveal what he was all about to his apostles with whom he ate, drank, spoke and slept---why this persecutor, saul?.

  the apostles heard every word jesus spoke and were willing to die for him.. paul didn't--yet--miraculously explained every detail of the entire history of god's purpose including his messiah.. .

  can anybody provide a non-gimmick answer?.

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  Nobleheart

  Paul mentioned Jesus' death, burial and resurrection and subsequent appearance to many eyewitnesses in 1 Cor 15:3-8.

  3 For I handed on to YOU , among the first things, that which I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; 4 and that he was buried, yes, that he has been raised up the third day according to the Scriptures; 5 and that he appeared to Ce´phas, then to the twelve. 6 After that he appeared to upward of five hundred brothers at one time, the most of whom remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep [in death]. 7 After that he appeared to James, then to all the apostles; 8 but last of all he appeared also to me as if to one born prematurely.

  To Christians, Jesus' death and resurrection are even more important than his ministry and whatever miraculous deeds he accomplished.
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  It was a Mastercard moment!

  by Desert Rat in

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  me and my hubby went to town today to do a little shopping.

  we stopped at a little place we like for lunch.

  part way through our meal two ladies sat down in the booth next to us.

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  Nobleheart

  that's just great! Good for you! I really hope they wake up and say 'enough is enough'.
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  Discovering Mortality

  by pirata in

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  most of my life i never gave thought to my mortality because i'd be petting a lion forever in the new system.

  my hobby could wait because i would have time to pursue it as a perfect being in a paradise.

  dying was not a huge deal because i'd wake up in a paradise earth.. then i woke up.

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  Nobleheart

  Before I became a JW I did believe in some kind of God (although not strictly based on the Bible), and always hoped that this life wasn't all there was.

  As a JW I believed that I'd live in paradise somewhere (I often wished I could choose where my modest home would be, I didn't want any elder picking my lot).

  I think now after waking up, I still believe in God. I do realize that maybe parts of his Word - the Bible have changed, or it doesn't reflect the supernatural's true character. But since most of the universe remains a mystery, I feel that there's someone out there who is looking out for me and you and has a good plan for us, somewhere (heaven, earth, unknown matter/anti-matter), wherever really..

  If God's truly love, that's just my sincere opinion.
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  My Letter To the Watchtower

  by AiAi in

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  this is an exact copy of my letter to the watchtower.

  it never recieved a reply (i did not include 'attn writing committee' in the address however).

  please keep in mind that when i wrote this i had just started my intensive research into their beliefs/history, and despite my agressive tone i really did expect a satisfactory answer.

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  Nobleheart

  awsome letter. How did you master the courage to send it and did you actually include your name and cong? If so, you might get a visit from the elders.

  Good for you though. Hopefully someone with a brain read it and started to think.
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  "Top 10 Grievances Against the Bible"

  by leavingwt in

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  lady atheist.

  my top ten grievances against the bible .

  1. authority -- not -- it was compiled, copied, edited, codified and translated by men.

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  Nobleheart

  I also noted Paul's great influence in Christianity compared with the other 12 apostles, who except Peter aren't as present as I'd like them to be. (James and Jude weren't from the original 12 either). You also said: "It's undeniable that WT and many others have setup their legalistic framework of rules and regulations based upon (what may or may not be) Paul's writings."

  Compared to how Jesus saw women and treated them (samaritan woman, martha & mary, mary magdalene), he gave them importance by revealing them information about his identity and resurrection.

  Then we have a different view with Paul talking about women's subjection, women having to learn in silence, not being allowed to teach men, women being kept safe by childbearing, women having to cover their heads, etc. I was always a bit offended at these comments of his. Why did he have to remind women that: a) they were created for the sake of men, b) they sinned first, by being misled and consequently led man into sin? If Jesus' sacrifice covered all sins, why did he have to remind them of these things? Weren't they all bought with the same price, and called by Jesus as brothers/sisters to share his kingdom with him? Paul does come across as misogynistic kind of like Rutherford.

  8. Speaking of Paul, Paul's role is a little too important in early Christianity. He never met Jesus, yet he supposedly explains Christianity with authority. He has a completely different message from Jesus' supposed words. A lot of Biblical inconsistency right there. Why should anyone believe anything he said? None of it was of a nature that couldn't have come from psychosis, imagination, or calculation. If he was divinely inspired, he could have set people straight about the Sun, for instance.
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  Hello

  by FirstLastName in

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  Nobleheart

  Welcome!

  I'm glad you made the right decisions and your family is positive seeing you're a happy person.

  Enjoy your reading!
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  This is perhaps the funniest thing you will ever see on this forum

  by Hobo Ken in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phvc_jv6vte.

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  Nobleheart

  really funny. i loved the ending when he says he'll climb the ladder and who knows if he'll end up in the GB