gotta love how giving talks, mowing the lawn, plowing the parking lot, adjusting microphones and counting the money are all considered 'privileges'.. but if you just stop answering questions.
bam no more giving talks, handling mics, or definately counting money.. but no matter what you do.
you will never loose the 'privilege' of mowing the kingdom hall lawn.
Gotta love how giving talks, mowing the lawn, plowing the parking lot, adjusting microphones and counting the money are all considered 'privileges'.
But if you just stop answering questions. BAM no more giving talks, handling mics, or definately counting money.
But no matter WHAT you do. You will NEVER loose the 'privilege' of mowing the kingdom hall lawn.
In those times, an unmarried woman had few prospects but misery and starvation.
Yup, if only they had some kind of omnipotent leader to provide for them. Or some wise and loving god who could teach them that they are able to take care of themselves. . . Shame they didn't have that.
It was a male dominated society, not very different from what the middle east looks like today.
Yeah, if only they had some kind of just leader who could set laws that weren't biased. Or some powerful god who could smite the crap out of abusive males. . . Shame they didn't have that.
A violated virgin was "damaged goods" on the marriage market and would never be able to have a husband support her.
Yeah, if only they weren't subject to bronze-age superstitions and had a wise leader who could convince them that just because someone has a broken hymen they are not magically poisoned, infertile, unlovable or useless. Or some enlightened god who could make laws just so that women had the rights needed to survive without a husband. . . Shame they didn't have that either.
For the violator to be forced to marry her without possibility of divorce was in order to guarantee her for her economic loss.
If only they had been taught by their loving leader to have compassion for one another, maybe they would have had a system to provide for rape victims that didn't involve enslaving them to a rapist for the rest of their lives. Or some god who could prevent rape from uccuring in the first place. . . Shame they didn't have that
If the god of the bible weren't so darned useless we wouldn't be having this discussion would we?
- Lore
can someone show me a verse that shows satan telling a lie?.
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elder-schmelder.
"Leo may be able to shed a light on that, but I THINK that the way it works in Hebrew is that "very day" referres to the day they EAT not that on that day they die.
In other words, on the day they eat of the food, their life as they know it ( life for all intents and purposes) will be over."
OK.
But then while we're twisting what people say to make it seem more truthful why don't we assume that Satan was ALSO being all figurative and evasive.
When he said they wouldn't die, he meant that they would 'live on' in our memories and be remembered forever.
The fact that we are still talking about them right now proves how truthful Satan was.
They are 'immortalized' in history.
Hey if you can do it for god I can do it for satan!
can someone show me a verse that shows satan telling a lie?.
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elder-schmelder.
I don't think this verse describes an immediate death.
Try some other translation. . . for example: Every other translation on the planet. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+2%3A17&version=ESV
You will find that it says: "In the day that you eat from it" (Or 'in the very day' or 'on that day')
Now if someone sets out a bowl of fruit salad in front of me and says: "Careful that fruit salad is poisoned or cursed or something, and if you eat it, you will die within a day!"
And another guy says: "Nuh uh, you won't die from it. But it does taste pretty darn good. And it'll help you poo."
I then eat it, it tastes swell, have a great BM, and then live on for another 900 years or so. . . guess which guy I'm gonna call the liar.
Even if the first guy shoots me in the head 900 hundred years later, that doesn't meen the second guy lied.
And since god never mentioned that they'd live forever if they DIDNT eat it, how do you know they wouldn't have died 900 years later anyway, or even a week later? (And since we are questioning Yahwehs honesty here, even if he DID say they'd live forever otherwise, that doesn't mean he was telling the truth.)
Lore
can someone show me a verse that shows satan telling a lie?.
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elder-schmelder.
Sure, when he challenged God and said that man would not serve him if you touch his flesh...Job 2: 4
Would you call that a 'lie' or a 'mistake'?
That's no more a lie than if someone asks where Bob is and I say: "In the garage" thinking it to be true and it turns out he was in the basement.
If he ACTUALLY believed that Job would turn against god then he wasn't lying, he was simply wrong.
And if he didn't actually believe it he probably wouldn't have made the bet in the first place.
you know what's the latest thing peta is complaining about?
how some goldfish are being treated!
fucking gold fish!
Man I love peta.
Seriously though I'm finding it hard to decide whether i'm gonna get some sushi or kfcs on the way home this evening! (Sorry McDonalds is still out of the question. I don't care what PETA says, that is NOT real meat!)
they could have gotten a serious tv ad on the superbowl and the world series.. jus' sayin'.
-sab.
But wouldn't it be more fun to go door to door during the superbowl and witness to people tryin to watch the game?
Think about it!
There were laws against rape in the bible.
But they had really dumb punishments and generally were worse for the rapee than the raper.
If a man raped an unmarried unengaged woman his 'punishment' was that he HAD to marry her and was not allowed to divorce her for all his days.
I don't think I need to explain why that sucks.
can you believe amazon was selling this crap?
they finally took the "guide" down after tons of people said they were through with amazon.com..
disgusting!!!.
But tell me, why do some here object to the biblical account of God allegedly wiping out the Canaanites when the Canaanites did the same OR WORSE?
There are more things wrong with this sentence than there are words in it. (exaggeration intentional and inaccurate)
1: What all of them?
Every Canaanite was a pedophile or worse? Even the children they were raping were themselves child rapists? You're gonna have to prove that one cause I find it highly unlikely. Or are you just generalizing? Just because SOME Canaanite were pedos they ALL deserve to be slaughtered. (Including their victims)
That's called Genocide and is typically frowned upon by several cultures.
2: Killing pedophiles is a bit extreme. Isn't it far better to give them medications to reduce their sex drive? Or help them face whatever mental issues they have?
Sure maybe we don't currently have the technology to safely deal with pedos in a humane fashion. But if that god has the power why would he choose excecution over rehab?
3: If you MUST kill them why do it so violently?
Cutting up pregnent women and smashing their babies against rocks. Stabbing people with swords. Cursing them with plagues.
When moral people put down a violent dog we do it as gently as possible, this god could theoretically poof them out of existance. He excecutes people in an immoral way.
4: It's completely off topic.
5: We're not part of a cult anymore, FinallyFree doesn't neccesarily speak for all of us.
hey i've posted here before several years ago as a different user.
i didn't feel like recovering my old password, i realized that i could technically be tied to my real name with that account information if one of my family members were to google me, plus i hated that username anyway.
so i just made a new account!.
Seriously though, nobody knows of any website where you can download recorded meetings?
A list of kingdom halls with tie lines so I can listen on someone else give it?
Some kind of resource of ministry school parts?
I already have the talk thrown together for tonight, but it'd be nice to know if these resources exist for future refference.
