Why would I read it again? There are so many other books out there to read, I'm not gonna waste time re-reading the ones I've already finished over and over.
Posts by Lore
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Bible reading
by mankkeli indoes anyone still take time to read the bible regularly or occassionally, or you have completely pushed it aside?.
pls give reasons.
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CO begging for more MS's
by life is to short inthe co is at my husbands hall this week so i tied in to the meeting he was going on and on about how there are 140 elders in the circuit and only 80 something ms's.
of the elders 25 are over 75 years old.
of the ms's it was about 20 are over 75 years old.
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Lore
Some of the things that females are not allowed to do are strange.
Why can't they operate the sound system? It's not something that requires any spiritual knowledge, they're not teaching the congregation, they're not representing anyone in prayer. They just sit in a little booth and fiddle with buttons.
If I wrote a simple program to activate the songs at the appropriate times would it have to wear a digital head covering? If it can be done automatically by software why can't a woman do it?Why are they allowed to mow the lawn and clean the toilets but not adjust the microphones?
Why do you have to have 2 MS's hold a sign that says: "This section reserved for baptismal candidates" But you can't just replace them with a pole or a sister?
What the heck are the biblical reasons for these restrictions?
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CO begging for more MS's
by life is to short inthe co is at my husbands hall this week so i tied in to the meeting he was going on and on about how there are 140 elders in the circuit and only 80 something ms's.
of the elders 25 are over 75 years old.
of the ms's it was about 20 are over 75 years old.
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Lore
there are 140 elders in the circuit and only 80 something MS's.
Maybe that's because the qualifications are almost identical.
If you 'qualify' to be a MS then you also 'qualify' to be an elder.
It's kind of unusual for someone to become a MS and then not get promoted to elder a few weeks later.
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WatchtowerÂ’s Sexual Subliminal?
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtowers sexual subliminal?
today i uploaded a new article to my blog.
it addresses one of the cleverest subliminal image sets ive seen in a long time, and perhaps the best of all amongst watchtower publications.
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Lore
Not to spoil the joke or anything, but was 'cock' even used as a slang term for 'penis' in 1958? I figured that was a much more recent thing.
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Do you blame Judas.
by mankkeli inhow could judas be blamed, for an action pre-planned by god.
wasn't he destined?, what are your views on the matter?.
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Lore
OK well there's a quantum uncertainty principle that's in play in scenario number 2 which apparently makes impossible to predict the distant future based on the current state it's in. Unfortunately I don't understand that so I'm gonna pretend it's not a problem.
So for the sake of simplicity lets pretend god copy/pasted the universe and fast-forwarded it to see what was going to happen in this one and it works.
I'm of the opinion that, if this is possible, it means that all our thoughts and actions are the inevitable result of the arrangement of atoms at the beginning of the universe.
If you've ever played conways game of life you can get an idea of how the specific arrangement of atoms early on will always result in the same inevitable outcome unless there are some truly random events or outside influence later on.
What this all means is that everything you do, even though it might feel to you as if you have free will in the matter, is all the direct result of how god arranged the atoms in the beginning. Whether he knew it at the time or not, he was predetermining EVERYTHING when he first made the universe.
This is why I say that free will is an illusion in that scenario. The only way things can happen any differently is if a really random event happens, or if god intervenes and changes something. But then after that random event or divine interevention, everything is 'predetermined' again.
But if truely random events DO happen without God's intervention, then the whole idea of him being able to predict the future falls apart.
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Do you blame Judas.
by mankkeli inhow could judas be blamed, for an action pre-planned by god.
wasn't he destined?, what are your views on the matter?.
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Lore
Lore, I would agree with number three, but without the part you bolded.
Do you mean number 2?
Just checking.
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Do you blame Judas.
by mankkeli inhow could judas be blamed, for an action pre-planned by god.
wasn't he destined?, what are your views on the matter?.
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Lore
Sort of like when we can see the consequences coming for our own children's actions, but our children can't.
Except it goes way farther than just that.
Yeah if your son is already 17 years old and doing drugs and stealing you can extrapolate into the future and assume he'll shortly be in jail or dead.
But according to Christians Yahweh predicted the specifics, all the way down to the exact price, hundreds or thousands of years before he was born.
There are 4 possibilities here:
1: Yahweh caused it to happen and violated Judas' free will by forcing him to accept the bribe.
2: It really is possible to predict exactly what someone is going to do thousands of years before they are born, in which case free will is an illusion.
3: Yahweh threw out a random guess about what was going to happen and just got SUPER lucky on the details.
4: It's actually just a myth.
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Do you blame Judas.
by mankkeli inhow could judas be blamed, for an action pre-planned by god.
wasn't he destined?, what are your views on the matter?.
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Lore
If the bible stories are true, then they didn't have to be sneeky about arresting him. Jesus' little stunt with the whip and turning over the tables was enough to get him arrested. You don't need to make up false charges for that.
You also don't need someone to point him out, this guy has been going around rezzing people and teaching for 3 years, it shouldn't be that hard to find someone who can recognise his face.
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Cash-strapped Men turn Gay.
by ThomasCovenant inmen are turning to a life of carefree homosexuality to avoid the expense of wives and children, it has emerged.. .
a sharp drop-off in the men's grooming market has been linked to heterosexual men growing the thick facial hair which they believe will make them enticing to other males.. civil engineer, bill mckay, said: "with the economy unlikely to improve in the near future, there's no way i can afford nice dresses and designer chocolates, let alone the school uniforms and hefty tuition fees that are the eventual consequence of those bribes.. "alternately, if i bag myself a hairy builder then not only will he have no interest in cath kidston products, but also he can build my extension for free while we share interesting sport-related banter and laugh at the peter kaye jokes in nuts magazine.".
he added: "i suppose we'd have to have sex at some point.
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Lore
Wait, poverty causes homosexuals?
Here all this time I thought it was masturbation, porn, sleeping on your back and watching Disney movies.
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FYI: Something is going on in Brazil that's interesting
by AndersonsInfo inposted on www.christianwitnesses.com.
the federal public ministry at ceara, brazil, on july 14, 2011 filed a civil action against the religion of jehovah's witnesses in the 8th federal court for practicing religious discrimination against former members.
prosecutor nilce cunha rodrigues has taken on official representation of sebastian oliveira (ramos) who, after being expelled from the religion was discriminated against by colleagues, friends and relatives, including his mother, in accord with norms of the jehovahs witnesses who are headed by a governing body of the watchtower society.
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Lore
You guys seem pretty anxious to toss out your freedoms if it means screwing the WT society.
What if the shoe was on the other foot and the Brazilian government was fining apostates for speeking out against the watchtower?
The laws in America that give the Watchtower the ability to spread their lies and instruct families to shun each other, are ALSO the same laws which give you the right to tell everyone that the Watchtower society is evil and should be avoided.
If someone you loved was beginning to study with the witnesses, wouldn't you tell them it's in their best interest to stop studying? Well that's religious discrimination, but it's your right. And I don't think we should be so happy to see those rights violated just because it's happening to someone else.
I realise the laws are different in Brazil. . . but maybe they shouldn't be.