where is the evidence you were "wronged", "mistreated", dis-fellowshipped for no reason, blah, blah, blah.. some of you seem to want "evidence" to provide credibility to other's statements at times.. where is your evidence?.
nightowl.
Some of you seem to want "evidence" to provide credibility to other's statements at times.
You say that as if it's a completely foreign concept.
"Pssshaw, wanting 'evidence' for stuff sometimes. . . what the heck is that about?"
I personally don't claim to have been mistreated or disfellowshipped for no reason, but I'm curious what kind of evidence you are looking for? You want an audio recording or something?
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if there is no god (however defined), do humans have more intrinsic value than animals?
feel free to offer brief or complex responses.
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if there is no god (however defined), do humans have more intrinsic value than animals?
feel free to offer brief or complex responses.
Intrinsic value is a completely useless concept
If some alien a billion lightyears away thinks that copper is the most valuable material in the universe and millions of aliens die every year mining for copper. . . does that make the copper in my walls intrinsicly more valuable?
Maybe, but unless I ever encounter these aliens, who gives a crap?
If the copper has an intrinsic value, meaning it's worth whatever it's worth no matter what anyone anywhere thinks about it, how is that concept useful?
Unless of course I'm misunderstanding what you mean by 'intrinsic value'.
i have been asking god for a new living arrangement, and he dropped the place in my being.
it's pending and i will update.
i am still praying and thanking him.. .
I have been asking God for a new living arrangement, and he dropped the place in my being.
so far what is the response to the aux pioneering this year vs last year?.
in our cong - only 10 so far vs 52 last april.
Last year there were 45ish by the end of the month.
We currently have 16 this year.
take the last two digits of the year you were born.. add that to the age you will be on your birthday in 2011 and it will equal 111.. jdw .
Unless you are 112 in which case it would come to 211. Congratulations you have mastered maths 101 'How to work out someones age given the current date and their birthday' Genius!
I laughed.
So, which one of your parents beat you down?
Your mother, or your father?
I laughed harder.
and how far apart were they?.
thanks.
Wow, I really hate this question, but I hate the answer even more. Not once have I been in love since high school.
Same answer here. . . except without all the remorse and depression.
last week as i listened to the public talk, i noticed.
that several times the speaker referred to the watchtower.
as the source of authority.. he said that "in the july1, 1980 watchtower page 15. paragraph 4 it says".... it is like he was looking up a bible.
Ask any witness what happened to Jepthah's daughter. If they tell you she was offered up as a burnt offering, then the Bible holds more weight.
If they tell you she dedicated her life to serve in a temple in Shiloh, then you have your answer.
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
God would then break His own law. "Do not make an image".
1: Since when has God been bound by his own laws?
2: Didnt' that only apply to making images of creatures and worshiping them?
3: He said: Build an ark! (of the covenant) And told them to make images of angels (creatures in the heavens) and stick them inside that ark. So that command was more like a 'guidline' than an actual rule.
Isn't what someone teaches more important than what someone performs?
Are we discussing what's more important now? I thought we were discussing what was more convincing.
i now find it idiotic that i could ever beleive the bible to be the inspired word of god.....,throughout the bible "god"has only dealt with a few of his favoured spokespersons to deliver his messages to a minority populace.individuals at first,..... then, patriarchs,nomads,a small nation,ignoring all other nations that had sprung up.......,abandoning his chosen nation,sending his "son"to a small nation, only giving them his pearls of wisdom,much of what was not even recorded for prosperity and remember he never wrote a word,it was left up to other imperfect humans to record what he was supposed to have said,just a smidgen......,again ignoring the bulk of humankind keeping them in ignorance of his plan for universal salvation,leaving it all up to imperfect humans to spread this message of salvation, whom he has already condemned for their sinfullness and disobedience.i just find it so unbeleivable.
in the 6000 years of recorded history only a fraction of the earths population,maybe less than a third have ever heard of the god of the bible, or his so called plan to redeem humankind ,thats millions and millions of people.
( india,arabic,afghanistan,pakistan etc.etc.).
So Abraham was a better teacher than god?
God just can't figure out how to convince people of stuff, he's too dumb superior to communicate with humans on a human level. So he has to find the select few who can understand his jibberish divine wisdom and tell THEM. Then those chosen people can go around translating it into something normal people can understand.
Basically if the supreme creator of the universe is just not capable of proving to me that he exists, what makes you think you're going to do any better? (Interestingly, you've already done better, since I'm already fairly certain that YOU exist. . .)
