Years ago I remember counsel about listening to classical music....the real classical, Bach, Beethovan.....The reasoning was "what was the story that inspiried that music, did it involve violence, fornication or any other kind of immorality?" If it did the conclusion was that anyone who listened to the music even without knowing the story behind it condoned that behavior.
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Change the Channel!
by perfect1 inon another thread band on the run mentioned the jw habit of changing the channel on tv abruptly whenever something spiritually reprehensible might pop up.. recently, when i was visiting a family member, they changed the channel from sumo wrestling so that we would not see such obscene nudity.. of course, as soon as i left the room the channel would switch back.
id come in and it would switch again.
this made for a semi entertaining game of seeing how close i could get before the channel changed.
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Visited Beth Sarim today
by exwhyzee inmy sister in law has been shunned by the family since she da'd herself at the age of 18 and moved out of the house.
i always insisted that my wife keep in contact with her and made sure she knew she had a soft place to land,with us, should she need it.
even at the risk of it getting us in hot water with the pioneer,elder,bethelite family members there was no way we were going to let her disappear into the wild blue yonder on her own.
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Rattigan350 Beth Sarim becomes very important when the corporation in print or talks brags about their "rich SPIRITUAL heritage"
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If there are no more miraculous events, then why do JW's pray for one?
by wha happened? inthis is exactly what i asked my wife.
if the wt has stated over and over, there are no more miraculous events, then why do u pray for one?.
her response?
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We had a brother going for heart surgery for about the 6th time. He never answered, never went in service, wasn't in the school, but his wife was fairly active and he had a very pretty daughter, a big screen TV, a lot of food and drink every weekend, so he was popular with all the Wat Farm boys. So, he's in the hospital and one of the bethelites prays "and Jeh, please guide the hands of the surgeon who is........" I about fell over, the congregation sucked it right up and loved it.
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What's the funniest/strangest name you ever gave a pet?
by JH in.
i was given a cat whose name was "piti".
i found it strange, but i kept it.
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I had a cat I named Crapper. When she was outside and I called for her I would yell "Crapper Dapper Doo!!!!!!!!!!!!" If she was within earshot she'd come running. My cat now I can't tell her name, it would identify me.
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Trend of Fewer Baptisms Continues: Latest JW Conventions in New Zealand
by steve2 inthe round of "international" conventions that started in the middle of last year in the states "wrapped" up last weekend in new zealand.
there was some media converage (from which i derived the information that follows).
(someone who knows how to copy links may be able to provide the relevant media links?).
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I was baptized in 1968 at 16 yrs old. I shouldn't have been but all the other kids my age were so I did too. But also the sense of urgency at that time was real, even for me a not very serious or spiritual person. Even if you were going to every meeting, out in service, no secret sins, your're not going to survive Armeggdon unless your baptized. Remember, the Noah's Ark pictured baptism. I don't believe that same sense of urgency is felt today.
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Meetings to Continue forever! Another reason you DON'T want to live in the NEW ORDER
by LostGeneration inpulled this gem from the 2013 calendar.
well, at least you get to have outdoor meetings in the mountains of south america with touchans flying around.
no more windowless kingdom halls!
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You mean the same old stuff? Where are the "new scrolls?"
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Bethel has Witness Psychiatrists on staff for Depression/suicide
by BlindersOff1 inas told by former bethelite at xjw gathering june 2012 .
her experience with a governing body member .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pit30xbjybu&list=uuefch9mapvfjihotacywxfa&index=9.
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Around the time of the big bethel layoff, when was that, 6 or 7 years ago?, each bethelite had to sign a form that allowed the bethel office to have access to their medical records. Ones that did not want to sign were made to think or were told they would be kicked out if they didn't, and they probably were. My friends, a couple at the farm did not want to sign but did, they were kicked out anyway. I also knew a sister in Conn. who was some kind of a counselor, don't remember what her credentials were, most of her business were sisters from Brooklyn and Wallkill.
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Do some GB know the truth about the truth?
by Bob_NC indo some of the gb consciously know the truth about the truth and they just can't say it?
or are they all still under the spell?.
how about cos or dos?
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Jookbeard, I've always wondered if some heavies have figured out how to make personal profit off the corp. I know for a fact (and people involved) that some in purchasing have had no problem accepting kickbacks (I know paid for vacations, possibly cars) by directing work to certain contractors. I believe a lot of these corp heavies have such prideful swollen heads they are able to do that without any twinge of conscience, feeling that they are so smart and intelligent they earned it.
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Do some GB know the truth about the truth?
by Bob_NC indo some of the gb consciously know the truth about the truth and they just can't say it?
or are they all still under the spell?.
how about cos or dos?
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I've said before that I think the lawyers run the corp. When the GB is willing to allow a long held and absolute doctrine like blood to be chopped up, watered down, and made way less relevant do they really believe it's because it's what the Master or Jeh wants? It's for the legal protection of the corp and they know that. And it's the lawyers they depend on to protect the corp not Jeh. I would say they have to know that they are not making decisions based on their deep insight into Jeh's word. I can imagine when they all meet and are discussing different issues the most popular phrase that can be heard is 'let's check with legal on that.' They would have to know that divine revelation or their own deep insight should not have to be OK'D by legal. So I would say that they at least know that they are not truthful with the publishers as to how the org is run. Years ago I was working out in service with a circuit overseer, we were talking about "new light," he said to me that if they ever change a "core doctrine" he would be the first one out the door. I don't remember that particular CO, but I do sometimes wonder if he is still a JW.
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New F&DS Light question
by ItsMyLife ini have a question about the implications of the new light regarding the f&ds.
sorry if it sounds complicated, i'm not good at explaining things.. .
if the f&ds is now just the few brothers who get together to dispense the food at the proper time, and the f&ds will be appointed over all of christ's belongings, then does that mean they will be appointed above the rest of the 144,000 when they go to heaven?
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Hollywood, belief and doctrine maybe, policy (I think) is dictated by the lawyers