I was just saying the way it is stated in the bible. That man was created in God's image. There are also violent uncivilized humans also, headhunters, canibals.... The thing of it is that not knowing anything about First Cause, God, bibical stories, why a 'God' doesn't communicate with humans.....etc, FOR SURE, we might be debating which fantasy is the right one. No point to my fantasy is better than your fantasy. Anyway, dont't think I disagreeing with you, I'm not, a lot of what you say are things that added to my reasons to try to quietly fade away.
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Why I no longer believe the Bible is "God's Word" and I no longer believe in "God"
by lifeisgood ini became a christain at the age of 9. not by going to a church or asking a preacher to baptize me, or anything like that.
i started reading my mother's king james bible cover to cover at the age of 8. my father was very abusive and when he was abusing me, i would close my eyes and pray.
i never hated my father, which is one good thing i got out of prayer.. when i turned 13 i became a lay preacher and traveled, on my own, preaching in any church that would let me.. when i was 15 i studied with the jws and was baptized after four months of study.. i was a zealous christain but not a zealous jw, according to them.
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Why I no longer believe the Bible is "God's Word" and I no longer believe in "God"
by lifeisgood ini became a christain at the age of 9. not by going to a church or asking a preacher to baptize me, or anything like that.
i started reading my mother's king james bible cover to cover at the age of 8. my father was very abusive and when he was abusing me, i would close my eyes and pray.
i never hated my father, which is one good thing i got out of prayer.. when i turned 13 i became a lay preacher and traveled, on my own, preaching in any church that would let me.. when i was 15 i studied with the jws and was baptized after four months of study.. i was a zealous christain but not a zealous jw, according to them.
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OK, I also have a problem with the violence in the bible. I've said that before. But, just a point, First Cause, or God made man in his image, not the other way around. So, as you said how could God have human charateristics, it is really the other way around, humans have God's charateristics. That would also explain the violent nature of humans at times.
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What makes leg warmers attractive on a woman?
by miseryloveselders inwhats the science on leg warmers?
why is that i can see a woman with socks on and it does absolutely nothing for me, but i see leg warmers, and i'm intrigued?.
not hot.
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Their legs.
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am i wrong?
by lenahmata ini know a regular pioneer, she's 18 years old.
i just knew that she had a relationship with a politician and a vicepresident of a certain parish church.
i told the elders about it.
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Why does the borg want everyone to snitch everyone out anyway when one of there favorite lines is "leave it in Jeh's hand,' or 'Jeh. will work it out?"
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Catch 22?
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logical problem with jw/christians:.
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Scooby-Doo prey that smelled much better than Adam, a natural fear of man, Jeh, a big stick, angels, Adams superior intelligence and perfect senses (he could hear and smell stinky old bear coming for him), run fast, climb trees, I don't know, all of the above.
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Catch 22?
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Yes, pretty incrediable how bacteria is able to become resistant to antibiotics.
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Catch 22?
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Rvalich, absolutely correct! I've said in other posts that if you believe creation it was Jehovah that created 'violence.' The natural creation around us is more violent than a war zone. It's the food chain, and even a animal at the top of the food chain survives only as long as they stay strong, then they are killed or starve. I never believed when I was 'in' that in the paradise predator and prey would live in peace. For that to happen the whole animal creation would have to be redesigned. Jeh designed it all, and don't forget all the scraficial blood spilled to please Jeh.
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STOP being naive - the time has come to use your PRIMAL SENSES
by Dogpatch ina lot of us spend a great deal of time on this board and elsewhere discussing the intricate doctrines of the .
watch tower as if they were legitimate arguments from the bible.. one of these is the issue of blood and blood transfusion.. another is "who is the faithful and discreet slave?".
or "what is the definition of "generation" given in the bible, so we can prove the witnesses wrong?.
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I believe the most effective tactic the borg uses is presenting BOTH sides to an issue in such a way that the unsuspecting or believing reader does not even think about questioning the accuracy of the opposing veiwpoint. When the duped reader is done with the article they put the mag done thinking that they researched or the borg researced that topic fully and the borg's conclusion is the only possible correct one. It would be like how the insurance companies advertise that they will 'compare rates' for you. They always say study, research, and meditate, their trick is that they print SO much that the witnesses think that going to the volumns, insight, or other Wat. publication is real research. Its not. The defense lawyer can't also be the prosecutor. They are masters at how they do that.
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Older Guys: did you pioneer during 'Nam?
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did you receive a 4-d classification readily?.
cc.
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NeonMadman, we must be about the same age. I turned 18 in '71. I registratered, was 1-A. NEVER pioneered, but got brothers to write letters for me that I was involved and learning the ministry. I was notified that I would have a 'hearing.' Then the lottery came out, I think '71 was the first year for that. My # was high. 300+ Was reclassified 1-A-1. After that I never heard from the draft board again.
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Just thinking back--paradise
by pontoon ini can remember i would always hear that borg was doing this or that in preparation for the paradise.
use to hear it a lot when kh's began to be built 'quickly.
' friends would tie that into how the borg could project manage all of the housing that would have to be built after big a. so, can you just imagine a paradise run and controlled by the same heavyweights that run the borg.
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I can remember I would always hear that borg was doing this or that in preparation for the paradise. Use to hear it a lot when KH's began to be built 'quickly.' Friends would tie that into how the borg could project manage all of the housing that would have to be built after big A. So, can you just imagine a paradise run and controlled by the same heavyweights that run the borg. For EVERYBODY, wake up, dress up, eat, morning worship, read new scrolls, study with ressurected ones, change into work clothes but not jeans--they're not allowed, neither are tank tops or tees with writing on them, work on house and garden for some borg heavyweight because they will not dress down into work clothes, shower, dress up for noon meal, 45 min. pep talk and experiences, change into work clothes, back to work on GB house (still some of them around, they never seem to die out), shower, dress for supper, evening worship, fill out daily report slip, go to where you were assigned to build your house when your done with borg assignments, crawl into your tent and pass out thinking this is not what you thought it was going to be. Wake up and start all over again.