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JCPenney removes a billboard after complaints that the tea kettle featured resembled Adolf Hitler. What do you think? Does it look like Hitler to you? Does it offend you? Do you care?

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Was Jonathan Holt baptized or not!!

by DATA-DOG in

i got into a discussion with a family member about this subject recently.

they brought it up, mentioning the young woman who was murdered, saying that she was a jw.

i said, " so was her murderer.

Iamallcool

AudeSapere	Re: Whitney Heichel - first hand account from congregation member on Facebook posted 7 months ago (10/30/2012)
Post 4478 of 4566 Since 2/2/2006	Very touching and emotional report. But not without glaring concerns (from typical exhalted-JW slant): According to the 44-page afadavit, the police had several officers involved in this case by early afternoon on the day she disappeared. [The account as cited in the OP gives the impression that the police were just sitting idle for 24 hours. Not true.] While the witnesses were great at organizing a search crew, they also potentially contaminated the crime scene(s). [ie: her jacket was given to Clint who in turn handed it over to the police] The brother got the bank officer to waive confidentiality because they knew each other personally??? [Isn't that a crime?] Holt 'visited' the Kingdom Hall? [He was baptized, served as a Ministerial Servant, and was even married in a Kingdom Hall. Would not have been allowed if he was just a marginal member or casual attendee.] This one, however, can potentially be the most telling: Sitting arm in arm with the family was the chief of police and a number of other officers, and the mayor came too. I think we about hugged the life out of them. But we have clearly won them over and think the world of Jehovah’s Witnesses now. Hmmmm Could this be one reason for the s pecial arrangements for Open House at the Kingdom Hall. If it turns out that a deeper investigation is conducted as to whether elders had reason to know of a severely unstable Jonathan Hold but chose to do ignore the signs, how thorough will the investigation be if the local elders, CO, DO (and I think one or two Bethel Heavies) have already charmed and wooed the chief, mayor and other officials involved????? -Aude.

AudeSapere

Re: Whitney Heichel - first hand account from congregation member on Facebook posted 7 months ago (10/30/2012)

Post 4478 of 4566
Since 2/2/2006

Very touching and emotional report.

But not without glaring concerns (from typical exhalted-JW slant):

According to the 44-page afadavit, the police had several officers involved in this case by early afternoon on the day she disappeared. [The account as cited in the OP gives the impression that the police were just sitting idle for 24 hours. Not true.]

While the witnesses were great at organizing a search crew, they also potentially contaminated the crime scene(s). [ie: her jacket was given to Clint who in turn handed it over to the police]

The brother got the bank officer to waive confidentiality because they knew each other personally??? [Isn't that a crime?]

Holt 'visited' the Kingdom Hall? [He was baptized, served as a Ministerial Servant, and was even married in a Kingdom Hall. Would not have been allowed if he was just a marginal member or casual attendee.]

This one, however, can potentially be the most telling: Sitting arm in arm with the family was the chief of police and a number of other officers, and the mayor came too. I think we about hugged the life out of them. But we have clearly won them over and think the world of Jehovah’s Witnesses now.

Hmmmm Could this be one reason for the s pecial arrangements for Open House at the Kingdom Hall. If it turns out that a deeper investigation is conducted as to whether elders had reason to know of a severely unstable Jonathan Hold but chose to do ignore the signs, how thorough will the investigation be if the local elders, CO, DO (and I think one or two Bethel Heavies) have already charmed and wooed the chief, mayor and other officials involved?????

-Aude.

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Why does the NWT omit Mt 23:14?

by Splash in

mt 23:14 does not appear in the nwt, but does appear in many other translations:.

for this you shall receive the greater judgment.

for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Iamallcool

Can anyone call Brooklyn to ask that question?

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Why does the NWT omit Mt 23:14?

by Splash in

mt 23:14 does not appear in the nwt, but does appear in many other translations:.

for this you shall receive the greater judgment.

for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Iamallcool

Great Question (bookmarking)