Poor "Kathy"!
And even for "Dave", it must be a big stretch to believe that "Jehovah providing" means that you have to leech off friends and acquaintances.
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I'm spiritually refreshed, can I borrow $ 7,000 ?
by man in black inwe know an out of state couple, (early 40's) who have been jw's for most of their lives.
i'll call them dave and kathy.. when they got married 15 years ago, kathy was a hard worker who did this religion mainly to keep her parents happy ( dad was the po).. dave was starting his own business, he never held a real job in his life, and he was pretty zealous for the jw way of life.. over the years they had their ups and downs, but around 5 years ago they both stopped attending the meetings, and were doing a textbook "fade".
we would hear from them about every 2-3 months, and his business seemed to be doing well, kathy was a stay at home wife who worked pt at home doing computer work.
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VERY depressed
by youngbro ini have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
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Youngbro, I can't chat as I'm at work but happy to send you my email if you'd like it.
Trust what the other posters have siad it will get better!
Retro
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how do you help a JW get out?
by visitor 525 ina little background info.
i have never been a jw always felt the "cult" was not something i wanted to get involved in.
anyway i hired a young man about a year ago to do a little remodel on my house i found out later he was a jw.
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Hi and welcome, Visitor!
I'm another non-jw, and would dearly like to get my SIL and a couple of others out. Unfortunately it is very difficult to do.
As you've found, everything has to be done the jw way. Of course this young man will arrive in a suit and "study" the "Bible" with you; that is, he'll bring a book called "What does the Bible really Teach" and that's what you'll study.
Then he can count time.
If you are not amenable to this, you are under Satanic influence and not good association. He will be fearful of contamination and being seen to be "weak" and willing to associate with "Worldlies". Cannot count time, so he's not keen on this.
Sending books (they call it "apostate literature"!) will probably make him even more wary; now you are trying to convert him! He'll avoid you like the plague.
Bottom line is, unless he's willing to spend time with you you have little chance. And if he is, simply encourage him to relax and have a good time. Talk about sport or cars or something. Any mention of religious stuff and all the warning bells go off.
Can I , why is it important to you what he believes? And does it relate to your own beliefs or spirituality?
Retro
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Telling a Depressed Person It's Demons!
by NewChapter inwhen a person is depressed, their cognitive abilities are depleted.
they are processing reality through a very negative filter and need help getting balanced.
they often experience fear, guilt, hopelessness and anxiety.
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((((NC))))
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Telling a Depressed Person It's Demons!
by NewChapter inwhen a person is depressed, their cognitive abilities are depleted.
they are processing reality through a very negative filter and need help getting balanced.
they often experience fear, guilt, hopelessness and anxiety.
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NewChapter,
just saw this! Of course it's reasonable! My take on it may or may not be correct. . .I just empathise a lot with lurkers and newbies
Peace to us all, Retro
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Telling a Depressed Person It's Demons!
by NewChapter inwhen a person is depressed, their cognitive abilities are depleted.
they are processing reality through a very negative filter and need help getting balanced.
they often experience fear, guilt, hopelessness and anxiety.
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NC and Sizemik, I understand.
bad advice is always bad, and when it's from an "authority" like a parent or elder it can well be lethal. No excusing that. But the comment didn't seem to be intended as advice, but as exploration, IMHO. Still not appropriate on thread!
But there's lots of depression among jws (my relative who's in has chronic depression), and this newbie may have been exploring from a personal perspective and attracted to the thread because s/he has a problem also.
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Telling a Depressed Person It's Demons!
by NewChapter inwhen a person is depressed, their cognitive abilities are depleted.
they are processing reality through a very negative filter and need help getting balanced.
they often experience fear, guilt, hopelessness and anxiety.
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I don't disagree with the OP, NewChapter, but the poster was new and may well have grown up believing implicitly in demonic inluences.
Likely no harm was meant, although it shouldn't have been brought up on that thread.
Retro
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VERY depressed
by youngbro ini have severe clinical depression and right now, for whatever reason it is really acting up....
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Hi Youngbro, I've had a few rounds of depression myself. Though I'm not a jw, what i've found is that each preceded a fairly major change on my life path.
now whatever the cause(s), depression is simply a treatable illness. In addition to meds, I was greatly helped by RET counselling, and would recommend a good counsellor to anyone. Also excercise helps (especially when I least feel like it!) and relaxation CDs. You can't be stressed once your body is relaxed. Even just a few deep breaths help.
Finally if you are not well, you should not be guilted into going to meetings, fs or having deep conversations with elders, or anything else that you don't feel up to.
Take care of yourself, and as you recover your balance, things will become clearer.
Retro
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Hurt Email or Hate Email
by Snowboarder inwell recently i got a long email from a jw in vancouver, she read my blog ( http://sochiolympicgames.blogspot.com/ ) and attacked me hard!
can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong?
my blog simply states the truth, she can't understand the whole picuture.
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Hi Snowboarder, and happy birthday for the 25th (?)
My experience of jws is similar, even the ones who seem nice, attack the messenger as soon as the message isn't what they want to hear.
just reply that if they think it's an apostate blog they shouldn't read it!
person used a really stupid illustration he said he really wants to fly so he flaps his hands and nothing, he said that like my goals unattainable and unrealistic
Sounds like a poor sick turkey jealous of an eagle!
Zum Wohl! Retro
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Anyone wanna place a bet on what will happen to me when I have to go to the Kingdom Hall this Saturday??
by Coffee House Girl inwell since there is no "betting" (as it reeks of gambling) in jdub land, lets place a friendly wager on what will happen to me when i go to my father's "memorial" service at the kingdome hall this saturday..... to give you newbies background info: i am neither df'd or da'd- i left 2 years ago with no explanation.
i have been hounded by elders in my cong because they have suspicions that i am living with a man, but they have no proof (well, no proof in jdub land- you know...two witness rule).
after many attempts to get me to meet with them- i finally sent the elders a "cease & desist" letter after one of them spied in my miniblinds to see me eating breakfast with someone (they couldn't identify who).
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As a non-jw, I'll disqualify myself and just have a for you!
My deepest sympathies on the loss of your father, and kudos for going to the KH with your mother!