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  WTS successfully refutes bogus UN conspiracy theory/hoax

  by trthskr in

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  2. scandals

  http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/translatable.html.

  there will be more to come folks, when i'm allowed to start another topic.

  cheers.. to respond to the posting below (since i can't reply right now), it's because they weren't aware of the change until then..

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  Retrovirus

  Hello and welcome, trthskr!

  The first seven-headed beast represents the governments/empires of the world but JW's all reside within them don't they?

  Oh yes, and JWs use their hospitals, transport systems, welfare provisions etc. . .

  Some people don't like certain places or buildings but are required to go there to obtain information or whatever reason

  Not liking a location is entirely different from trusting a religion that forbids going to those locations.

  Everything isn't black and white in the world

  Now that is true, for us worldlies. But for JWs, everything is black or white, forbidden or permitted. But this shows a lack of principle (aka hypocrisy) because Brooklyn failed to follow the rules it made for everyone else.

  Hope that has clarified it for you.

  Retro
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  Merry Christmas to you all!

  by Retrovirus in

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  2. friends

  it's christmas morning here in victoria, australia, and as usual i'm the first one awake.. hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends!

  enjoy!.

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  Thanks for all the Christmas thoughts and wishes, even the politically correct one (Ta St George!). Happy Christmas, Eoropeans!

  d, I hope 2012 will be a better year for you.

  MrMonroe, you have a reply pm.

  Retro ( who had too much xmas dinner )
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  JW FAMOUS CLICHE SAYINGS

  by strymeckirules in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what saying made it all around the country?.

  the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.

  "donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".

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  . . . I realised my life was out of control and prayed " God and Jesus, if you can hear me, help me!" No answer. Disheartened, I rose from my knees. Just then the doorbell rang . . ."
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  Merry Christmas to you all!

  by Retrovirus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's christmas morning here in victoria, australia, and as usual i'm the first one awake.. hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends!

  enjoy!.

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  Retrovirus

  It's Christmas morning here in Victoria, australia, and as usual I'm the first one awake.

  Hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends! Enjoy!
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  Victoria, Australia: The long edition (new) of Part 2 of Steven Unthank's report of molestation/rape within the Traralgon Cong.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.jwnews.net/.

  crisis of conscience within the traralgon congregation of jehovahs witnesses?

  part 2december 18, 2011 by sitepost .

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  Retrovirus

  Another approach - here in Victoria, could we encourage householders to ask jws at the door if they could show their "Working with Children" cards? At the very least it would put a hole in that polite but superior sales image
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  Not sure what to tell my 4 year old about Santa

  by jwfacts in

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  2. friends

  my adorable little son is very excited about christmas.

  i have not made a big thing about it, but he must have picked up the christmas spirit from what he is seeing in the shops and on tv.

  he loves the music, and movies and all the decorations.

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  JWfacts,

  My daughter is a realist; at 3 she even doubted when we explained that Santa would come down the chimney and leave gifts. But she still tiptoed out to check that Christmas morning, and one of our happiest memories is how she rushed back in to wake us, full of excitement to share.

  20+ years later the kids and I still share Christmas with all the trimmings. Christmas is a special family time and chilren like your son make it magical.

  Enjoy!
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  Bloodguilty?

  by Retrovirus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  such a scary expression!

  the thread on theocratic terms reminded me of this one.

  i searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions.

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  N.Drew, I understand your position and sorry for my lack of clarity (perhaps I shouldn't post at work )

  NRFG,The WT is more than bloodguilty according to Matthew 23:13

  Yes, that's what I think also. They have created may atheists and doubters. They have required their members to believe contradictory doctrines that threaten their lives and those of their families, and then changed them with the facile explanation of "new light".

  The wt governing body and their "advisors" - or perhaps their owners - are massively bloodguilty.

  But the believers are the ones that experience the guilt.

  Retro
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  Bloodguilty?

  by Retrovirus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  such a scary expression!

  the thread on theocratic terms reminded me of this one.

  i searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions.

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  Thank you all! Worse than I thought. Accourding to N. Drew, then, every non-jw, even if s/he has not heard the "good news" is bloodguilty.

  And, any jw that was a bit slack in "service", and missed someone who might have "come to the truth" is bloodguilty too.

  I'd be surprised if anyone makes it through Armageddon!
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  Bloodguilty?

  by Retrovirus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  such a scary expression!

  the thread on theocratic terms reminded me of this one.

  i searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions.

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  Retrovirus

  Hi All,

  Such a scary expression! The thread on Theocratic terms reminded me of this one. I searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions. Thanks in advance for any help!

  1. The term "bloodguilty" has been used by jws that I know several times. However, I've not seen it in any publications. Is this because the wt avoids using it, or because my reading is limited?

  2. What crime(s) make a jw "bloodguilty"? Is it something contributing to murder or manslaughter, covering up sin in the congregation (ie not ratting someone out), permitting a blood transfusion, slackness in field service? Any others?

  3. Can a non-jw be bloodguilty?

  4. If a jw believes s/he is BG, does this mean that s/he loses their hope of surviving the big A? What must they do to get back into Yahweh's good books?

  Thanks again, Retro
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  So my JW wife cheated on me. Need some help or at least a sympathetic ear.

  by JonathanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have neither friends nor family to turn to.

  the result of being born in a cult.

  but i need to talk about this.

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  Retrovirus

  JonothanH, I'm sorry you have this to deal with.

  She woke up crying in the middle of the night saying she ruined everything.

  It's not clear to me; is she sorry for betraying your trust and her marriage vows, or sorry for breaking her religion's rules? Her insistence on involving the elders is a concern.

  Still, sincerely hope it leads to better times, Retro