wondering with all that has been said about the mentally diseased has anyone heard if a jw can divorce a disease mate?.
Hello and welcome, tif21!
I'm a non-jw, but well aware of the pressure put on a marriage of a believer and UBM, despite all the assurances! However, I think the way it works is to first try to convert the UBM, and if that is not an option and the UBM is outspoken, pressure the believer to save themselves and any children from "spiritual endangerment", ( ) by separation if necessary.
Hope to hear more from you, Retro
http://jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/translatable.html.
there will be more to come folks, when i'm allowed to start another topic.
cheers.. to respond to the posting below (since i can't reply right now), it's because they weren't aware of the change until then..
Hello and welcome, trthskr!
The first seven-headed beast represents the governments/empires of the world but JW's all reside within them don't they?
Oh yes, and JWs use their hospitals, transport systems, welfare provisions etc. . .
Some people don't like certain places or buildings but are required to go there to obtain information or whatever reason
Not liking a location is entirely different from trusting a religion that forbids going to those locations.
Everything isn't black and white in the world
Now that is true, for us worldlies. But for JWs, everything is black or white, forbidden or permitted. But this shows a lack of principle (aka hypocrisy) because Brooklyn failed to follow the rules it made for everyone else.
Hope that has clarified it for you.
Retro
it's christmas morning here in victoria, australia, and as usual i'm the first one awake.. hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends!
enjoy!.
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Thanks for all the Christmas thoughts and wishes, even the politically correct one (Ta St George!). Happy Christmas, Eoropeans!
d, I hope 2012 will be a better year for you.
MrMonroe, you have a reply pm.
Retro ( who had too much xmas dinner )
what saying made it all around the country?.
the ones that were passed around, word of mouth.. for example.
"donations basis proves jehovah is behind the work!".
. . . I realised my life was out of control and prayed " God and Jesus, if you can hear me, help me!" No answer. Disheartened, I rose from my knees. Just then the doorbell rang . . ."
it's christmas morning here in victoria, australia, and as usual i'm the first one awake.. hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends!
enjoy!.
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It's Christmas morning here in Victoria, australia, and as usual I'm the first one awake.
Hope you all have a wonderful day with family and friends! Enjoy!
http://www.jwnews.net/.
crisis of conscience within the traralgon congregation of jehovahs witnesses?
part 2december 18, 2011 by sitepost .
Another approach - here in Victoria, could we encourage householders to ask jws at the door if they could show their "Working with Children" cards? At the very least it would put a hole in that polite but superior sales image
my adorable little son is very excited about christmas.
i have not made a big thing about it, but he must have picked up the christmas spirit from what he is seeing in the shops and on tv.
he loves the music, and movies and all the decorations.
JWfacts,
My daughter is a realist; at 3 she even doubted when we explained that Santa would come down the chimney and leave gifts. But she still tiptoed out to check that Christmas morning, and one of our happiest memories is how she rushed back in to wake us, full of excitement to share.
20+ years later the kids and I still share Christmas with all the trimmings. Christmas is a special family time and chilren like your son make it magical.
Enjoy!
such a scary expression!
the thread on theocratic terms reminded me of this one.
i searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions.
N.Drew, I understand your position and sorry for my lack of clarity (perhaps I shouldn't post at work )
NRFG,The WT is more than bloodguilty according to Matthew 23:13
Yes, that's what I think also. They have created may atheists and doubters. They have required their members to believe contradictory doctrines that threaten their lives and those of their families, and then changed them with the facile explanation of "new light".
The wt governing body and their "advisors" - or perhaps their owners - are massively bloodguilty.
But the believers are the ones that experience the guilt.
Retro
such a scary expression!
the thread on theocratic terms reminded me of this one.
i searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions.
Thank you all! Worse than I thought. Accourding to N. Drew, then, every non-jw, even if s/he has not heard the "good news" is bloodguilty.
And, any jw that was a bit slack in "service", and missed someone who might have "come to the truth" is bloodguilty too.
I'd be surprised if anyone makes it through Armageddon!
such a scary expression!
the thread on theocratic terms reminded me of this one.
i searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions.
Hi All,
Such a scary expression! The thread on Theocratic terms reminded me of this one. I searched and found this thread, which answered some of my questions, but still have some questions. Thanks in advance for any help!
1. The term "bloodguilty" has been used by jws that I know several times. However, I've not seen it in any publications. Is this because the wt avoids using it, or because my reading is limited?
2. What crime(s) make a jw "bloodguilty"? Is it something contributing to murder or manslaughter, covering up sin in the congregation (ie not ratting someone out), permitting a blood transfusion, slackness in field service? Any others?
3. Can a non-jw be bloodguilty?
4. If a jw believes s/he is BG, does this mean that s/he loses their hope of surviving the big A? What must they do to get back into Yahweh's good books?
Thanks again, Retro
