Sincere sympathy, Roberta, and kudos for protecting her serenity in the last days!
Retro
thank you for all of your support durning the two difficult weeks my mother was on her death bed.
last night at 10:30pm she breath her last with my sister and i by her side.
this is a real end of an era for me as i have known little these past 8 years other than taking care of my parents.
Sincere sympathy, Roberta, and kudos for protecting her serenity in the last days!
Retro
i'm posting this story, not to defend an indefensible act, but to try to provide some balance.
the fact is that so many indians exist in a poverty so deep that it's difficult for westerners to even understand.
the youngest of the rapists in the now world known rape story, according to this uk, independent newspaper story, grew up in that world that seems hopeless.
What Mamochan13 said
this is my first time posting on here.
i've been inactive for 3 months now and my husband and i are going the fading way.
i was born and raised in this religion and now after almost 30 years, they have taken most everything from me.
Welcome Gojira_101
Good luck with the fade, and enjoy the freedom!
Retro
i have been involved in an email exchange with a jw regarding my article on noah's flood, and whether it was global.
it got me really worked up, as i find the watchtower mentality totally hypocritical.
here is part of the conversation.. .
They really are shockers
faulty “scientific” theories invented by imperfect men.
and yet, if there is an "new light" or demonstrated bad conduct by an elder, quick to use the "imperfect men" defense themselves.
And the common jw concept that if the messenger has been successfully smeared, there's no need to investigate the message any further. Sad. .
something in still thinkings post triggered my own rant.
after observing the situation as an adult for quite awhile, it is my belief that the societys teachings make people weak.
the wts does not strenthen, it enfeebles in nearly every way possible.. here are a few traits which bother me most:.
Not sure if it's indirectly covered, but the "shoot the messenger" mentaility. This means by focussing on and abusing any source of uncomforatable information they never have to confront it.
So, the many terms for such books/sites/people: Apostate, weak in faith, bad influence, controlled by Satan etc
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you have all read in newspapers , heard it on tv, radio ,of the 23 year old indian woman student who was gang raped recently by no less than 10 men on a bus then severely beaten with an iron bar and then thrown off the bus in singapore and has since died of her injuries .. those perpretrators of that crime are deserving of the death sentence in my book .. if you willfully take a life or ,are a party to it ,you automatically forfeit your own life .that`s my philosophy .. what`s yours.
smiddy.
Smiddy,
Sorry for having to leave the discussion and a Happy New Year!
If these perpretrators are identified as the culprits ? What say ye then ?
Identified how? Eye witness, fingerprints? DNA? confession? The thing is wrongful convictions do happen. The most stats I'm aware of are American, but after all we had the Lindy Chamberlain case here too. And then we are in the position that Dmouse outlined:
"It's wrong to kill, you are believed to have killed, so now we have to kill you."
I'm a mother and am very distressed and outraged by this case. But a quick and retaliatory response, while possibly helping some people to cope with the horror of this case, sets a very dangerous precedent. Wherever executions are legal, people have been unjustly executed. And that is equally horrific.
Worst of all is that cultural minorites, the poor, undereducated and mentally challenged are at greatest risk. Those with the capacity and means to hire the best legal advice and PR are rarely convicted. Remember OJ Simpson?
The alternatives have, for now, lower success rates and cost the taxpayer a lot. But as a civilized country, I don't believe we can afford to decend to retaliation to satisfy the popular media.
Retro
you have all read in newspapers , heard it on tv, radio ,of the 23 year old indian woman student who was gang raped recently by no less than 10 men on a bus then severely beaten with an iron bar and then thrown off the bus in singapore and has since died of her injuries .. those perpretrators of that crime are deserving of the death sentence in my book .. if you willfully take a life or ,are a party to it ,you automatically forfeit your own life .that`s my philosophy .. what`s yours.
smiddy.
I'll consider supporting the death penalty when we have a legal system that provides infallible verdicts.
check it out.
first, the article...... awake!
where can you get the best education?.
(Encyclopedia of Sermon Illustrations)
So, did they cite the reference, or otherwise make it clear that the quote was from a sermon, rather than an academic opinion?
i know exactly what happened... he thinks i'm going to die at the big a and wants to be with someone he can live forever with.... we have two girls, ages 3 and 1... i really thought we'd make it despite the religion, now i really don't think so... not sure what to do... .
Cognac, just read the other thread. I too wanted to stay with my ex - for the children. And because a broken marriage would make me a loser. These were not good reasons.
My life has improved steadily from that low. I'm still working, financially secure (not the case in the marriage), my children are happy and healthy adults. I'm in a good and balanced long-term relationship.
Best of all I've more self confidence than I ever had before!
Wish you all the best, just don't give him too much undeserved power.
Retro
i know exactly what happened... he thinks i'm going to die at the big a and wants to be with someone he can live forever with.... we have two girls, ages 3 and 1... i really thought we'd make it despite the religion, now i really don't think so... not sure what to do... .
worse than that , as I remember. Still, things will get better.
Dam stupid religion!