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  Help!!!

  by marriedtoajw in

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  i have come here for any advice and support that anyone can give and i really need it now.

  i don't talk about these issues with my siblings anymore because they have already told me that they have no advice and can't help.

  feelings of anxiety have been overwhelming me the lat 2 years and it makes me feel like a scared little child.

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  Hi Marriedtoajw

  I know of no one who has delt with being with being married to a JW as long as I have withoug getting sucked in.

  My brother was; his wife was "studying" when they married and is still totally in. Their marriage didn't survive - jws don't compromise - but both children avoided baptism and are "out". They always had his worldview as an alternative.

  Hopefully you have read the Cameron books. In any case, the way to win your children is to maintain the moral high ground. Be calm and respectful or everyone's beliefs, but . . ask questions. And ask difficult questions of your wife when the children are there.

  I'd guess she'll try all the typical jw tactics - changing the subject, answering something else, demanding the source of your information and dissing it. Never give her an "apostate" source or link to work with; use the dissinformation in the literature itself, or articles such as Candace Conti in the media.

  End with "I'd like to believe, but in all conscience, unless . . . . is cleared up, it's not possible".

  Do your children attend school? The evidence for evolution, and against a worldwide flood, is overwhelming.

  Finally, it seems you are feeling powerless - truly, you are not. Counselling might help here; it worked for me!

  Hope this helps, Retro
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  And yet another new member.

  by AMO in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys & girls.. though you can sit back down in your seats now, sorry but not a jw, never have been & never will be, am a totally happy with athiest life, lol.. started lurking here about a year ago, started dating a jw woman didn't i, i here the face palms, lol.

  lucky for me i found this site while trying to find out more about the jw's very early on & knew exactly how this was prob going to end.

  but i thought what the hell lets see where it goes.

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  Welcome, AMO, from another non-jw occaisional poster!
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  Sickening Dilemma

  by ItsMyLife in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i would like to have your opinions on what i should do about a situation please.. i have recently discovered that a 'brother' in the congregation (which i no longer attend) is a child molester.

  i've seen documentation from his psychiatrist dated a few years ago, stating that he doesn't feel that this person is likely to offend again.

  the 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again.

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  "The 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again" That sentence alone shows the evasion of personal responsibility. "IT" doesn't happen - the molester does it. Not accepting responsibility is another indicator that this person will re-offend. The police need to be involved!
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  New "Jehovah's Friend" video - Lesson 3: Pray Anytime

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here it is folks.... http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/pray-anytime/.

  sophia takes center stage on this one.. .

  cedars.

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  Anywhere anytime I can pray. . .

  Ah, not exactly. When a baptised sister , or better still a brother is offering a prayer, all you get to do is follow along and say "Amen".

  Never too soon to teach Sophie her place and her prospects!
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  Annoying 2/15 WT - Don't Be Stumbled- your Mind Just Misunderstands !

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another wt article which causes jw's to doubt their own perceptions of reality.

  ) in this particular article titled " for those loving jehovah, " there is no stumbling block " - the wt society stoops to new, or rather re-hashed lows to insinuate that most if not all jw's really misunderstand causes of stumbling as it's just their minds that are imperfect, messed up, or gone entirely anyway.

  the first abhorrent bit of information here describes a witness man who " fought " with feelings of being homosexual and of course the elders thought they had the perfect antidote to keep him from his alleged " abnormal " desires.

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  Two elders visited him and listened sympathetically, without interrupting, while he related his story, AS HE PERCEIVED IT. They encouraged him to thrw his burden on Jehovah and stressed that the most important thing was to please God. "

  So sad. They don't even need to try to equate "pleasing God" with "Obeying the WT and not rocking the boat" because the poor sheep already have that engraved on their minds. . .
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  My Mother Passed

  by Roberta804 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thank you for all of your support durning the two difficult weeks my mother was on her death bed.

  last night at 10:30pm she breath her last with my sister and i by her side.

  this is a real end of an era for me as i have known little these past 8 years other than taking care of my parents.

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  Sincere sympathy, Roberta, and kudos for protecting her serenity in the last days!

  Retro
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  The Other Side of the Indian Rape Story

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  i'm posting this story, not to defend an indefensible act, but to try to provide some balance.

  the fact is that so many indians exist in a poverty so deep that it's difficult for westerners to even understand.

  the youngest of the rapists in the now world known rape story, according to this uk, independent newspaper story, grew up in that world that seems hopeless.

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  What Mamochan13 said
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  Just joined

  by Gojira_101 in

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  2. experiences

  this is my first time posting on here.

  i've been inactive for 3 months now and my husband and i are going the fading way.

  i was born and raised in this religion and now after almost 30 years, they have taken most everything from me.

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  Welcome Gojira_101

  Good luck with the fade, and enjoy the freedom!

  Retro
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  The scientific hypocrisy of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been involved in an email exchange with a jw regarding my article on noah's flood, and whether it was global.

  it got me really worked up, as i find the watchtower mentality totally hypocritical.

  here is part of the conversation.. .

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  They really are shockers

  faulty “scientific” theories invented by imperfect men.

  and yet, if there is an "new light" or demonstrated bad conduct by an elder, quick to use the "imperfect men" defense themselves.

  And the common jw concept that if the messenger has been successfully smeared, there's no need to investigate the message any further. Sad. .
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  Rant: Weakness and enfeebling

  by perfect1 in

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  2. friends

  something in still thinkings post triggered my own rant.

  after observing the situation as an adult for quite awhile, it is my belief that the societys teachings make people weak.

  the wts does not strenthen, it enfeebles in nearly every way possible.. here are a few traits which bother me most:.

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  Not sure if it's indirectly covered, but the "shoot the messenger" mentaility. This means by focussing on and abusing any source of uncomforatable information they never have to confront it.

  So, the many terms for such books/sites/people: Apostate, weak in faith, bad influence, controlled by Satan etc

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