They're hard wired to throw people under the bus if they see you as a threat to their salvation. Don't hold it against them for following their programming. Have you ever shunned a disfellowshipped or inactive person? If so, no one here will hold it against you, we've all done it. What would really suck is if they knew the organization for what it is and still turned thier backs on you. I've lost a good many freinds myself. I am moving onward though. Why not focus on replacing those fair weather freinds with REAL freinds. Build up a social life. 'Worldly' people are not all bad. There are many people out there that will be more loyal than any jw.
TimeBandit
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Was Any Part of it Real?
by Big Tex ini'm sort of following a stream of consciousness so bear with me.
i was flipping around on tv and ran across an old movie.
a couple had a one night stand and when she realized he had just used her she was shocked and told him he had said he loved her.
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Protected during prayers? Really?
by TimeBandit inprotected during prayers?.
did any of you ever hear stories or myths about faithful jws that when in prayer had been protected from something bad happening to them?.
maybe like the story i heard about the two sisters out in service who were about to be attacked by a viscous dog?
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Some of the fallout after our wreck:
1 Up until the crash, our passengers had been best friends to us. A single mother and her teenage son. Yeah they were poor and we helped them in many ways through the years. Soon after the wreck, they deleted us as friends from Facebook and started to ignore our emails. After some further emails asking them why the cold shoulder all they could come up with was "we need some space, some time away from you". My wife and I were like WTF? I know we were in a horrible crash together but they both knew it wasn't my fault. Both of them said that themselves many times. It remains a mystery how one minute we could be fast friends with these guys, and having them dump us the next. Fair weather friends I guess. Well that sucked because they were the only freinds we had in the congregation.
2 Our kingdom hall going to days were pretty much over following the wreck. We only went to a few more after that. My wife and I began to enjoy our Saturday and Sunday mornings off...Bev would come home after a 12 hour shift (graveyard)at the hospital on Thursday morning and trying to get her up and ready for the meeting that night was trying. She was still exhausted from working and groggy. I always hated the fact that sometimes she missed out on vital rest because of the damn Thursday night meetings!
3 By the next summer my wife and I had turned in our DA letters and exited the cult. I am so lucky my wife saw the pain and disbelief on my face as I told her about all my research findings that prove the jws are wrong and a cult. She took it surprisingly well. It turns out, she had been having doubts herself and was looking forward to getting her weekends and Thursday nights back! Bev, you're my favorite!
4 The lady that hit us had full coverage insurance, so they paid my brand new Kia Sorento off and we didn't have that debt any more. Luckily we had a second vehicle (though unreliable mechanically). Now after two years of waiting we may be getting a settlement from her insurance company. I hope we get a decent amount, we need it.
5 I sent Sister fairweather friend and her son copies of my disassociation letter with the invitation to kiss my ass. I think that's a pretty happy ending.
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Protected during prayers? Really?
by TimeBandit inprotected during prayers?.
did any of you ever hear stories or myths about faithful jws that when in prayer had been protected from something bad happening to them?.
maybe like the story i heard about the two sisters out in service who were about to be attacked by a viscous dog?
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Up until the point of my accident I had had several mishaps with prayer where the loving provider of escape did absolutely nothing to help me in a desparate situation. Many little things (and some big things) were adding up to my leaving the jws.
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Protected during prayers? Really?
by TimeBandit inprotected during prayers?.
did any of you ever hear stories or myths about faithful jws that when in prayer had been protected from something bad happening to them?.
maybe like the story i heard about the two sisters out in service who were about to be attacked by a viscous dog?
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Protected during prayers?
Did any of you ever hear stories or myths about faithful jws that when in prayer had been protected from something bad happening to them?
Maybe like the story I heard about the two sisters out in service who were about to be attacked by a viscous dog? According to the story they were working in a rural setting. As they were walking onto a property a viscous dog started running toward them with the intent to rip them apart. One of the sisters began praying for Jehovah to help them and suddenly the dog veered off and bit a cow instead? Ever hear that one? Does that give you goose bumps or what? Well I got my own story to share.
My wife and I along with two JW friends were on our way home from the district convention in June or July of 2010. We were returning Monday morning from Albuquerque, NM . On the way north later that morning we were on a highway that goes around Santa Fe in order to avoid traffic. Everyone in the car except me was asleep or dozing.
I was getting bored. I decided to pass some time in prayer. I used to pray a lot. I was just driving along kissing Jehovah’s ass when suddenly from the left a car ran a stop sign and plowed right into the driver’s side of my Kia . Everything was in slow motion for me for the next several seconds as I tried to swerve and avoid her.
I was going 55 miles per hour and she was going full speed too. I heard a loud CRACK and then the vehicle began spinning to the right. My vehicle went airborne and flipped three times in the air. We touched down hard and took out a metal street light pole. That saved us from continuing to flip and roll down the embankment. The spinning stopped and the car crashed to a halt. Now things sped up again and my wife who had this rude awakening was screaming with terror. My friends in the back were also appropriately excited.
I asked everyone if they were ok and they all seemed ok, just shaken up terribly. Next I directed that we all get out of the car as fast as possible. Who knows, maybe it’s about to blow up…We manage to force open the crumpled passenger doors and try to climb out. Did I mention that we’re all strapped in and upside down?
Yes, we all survived and are grateful to have our lives. Praying had nothing to do with us walking away from the crash alive. Nope. It was the steel reinforced doors, the extensive airbag system and other safety features that were built into the Kia. Why would Jehovah allow something this bad to happen to a carload of loyal jws? Hey man, I was even praying to Jehober himself when it happened. Why didn’t he protect us?
Just to let you all know, for every story you ever heard about god miraculously protecting his followers when praying there is a story like mine….
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A forum post earlier in my exjw recovery...
by TimeBandit ina forum post from earlier in my exjw recovery.
just looking back this morning :.
"i've always been hurt and cut personally when seeing injustice occur.
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A forum post from earlier in my exjw recovery. Just looking back this morning :
"I've always been hurt and cut personally when seeing injustice occur. I've also been quick to root for the underdog. It is devastating for me to see people who are truly good , with kind hearts and deeds, get trampled by those in power.
I have just completed reading Brother Ray Franz's book, Crisis of Conscience. It made me so mad to see such a true Christian be waylaid the way he was. Him and his faithful and loyal brothers that were demonized as apostates. Just thrown out on their asses after a lifetime of loyal service.
I am in shock to know what I know now about the organization. I know now without doubt that the organization could not possibly be God's channel for bible truth and salvation.
I mourn for Brother Franz. I am deeply saddened that he devoted his whole adult life to what he thought was service to God, only to be knocked down and kicked with the size 12's of the GB. I have been crying because it's hard to fathom someone as kindly and selfless as Ray Franz being treated in such a cruel and heartless manor.
My thoughts are with him, and his loving widow, Cynthia. I wish I could send her my condolences, some flowers, and maybe even a contribution.
Ray, wherever you are, I send you my love and thanks for the fine example you have set for other good people to follow. Thanks for opening my eyes brother, rest in peace."
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If you got apostate vids on Youtube take em off now!!! Legal Dept to Sue!
by smithmandy1 ini've posted this on the wrong section so i'm posting it on here cos its sort of to topic as i know many of you have vids on youtube.
legal department are beginning legal action against google and its uploaders regards to apostate vids that slander the watchtower and/or contain copyrighted material!!!
my hubby knows people who know so heres my warning lol.
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If you got apostate vids on Youtube take em off now!!! Legal Dept to Sue!
by smithmandy1 ini've posted this on the wrong section so i'm posting it on here cos its sort of to topic as i know many of you have vids on youtube.
legal department are beginning legal action against google and its uploaders regards to apostate vids that slander the watchtower and/or contain copyrighted material!!!
my hubby knows people who know so heres my warning lol.
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Oh, and one more thing. I made my own youtube video a while back. It's not going down...
Here's my Barbeque recipe using various JW literature. I love it flame broiled.
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If you got apostate vids on Youtube take em off now!!! Legal Dept to Sue!
by smithmandy1 ini've posted this on the wrong section so i'm posting it on here cos its sort of to topic as i know many of you have vids on youtube.
legal department are beginning legal action against google and its uploaders regards to apostate vids that slander the watchtower and/or contain copyrighted material!!!
my hubby knows people who know so heres my warning lol.
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Praise WTcomments!
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Ray Bradbury Died today
by NewChapter inhe was 91. he wrote fahrenheit 451 and the maritan chronicles.
i loved the martian chronicles.
i didn't read the other but saw the movie..
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Martian Chronicals, Something Wicked THis Way Comes, those two captured my imagination when I was a kid. Rest in Peace Ray!
Chris-
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Dear Watchtower?
by ldrnomo ini thought it would be fun to start a question and answer series.
i'll be the watchtower and you send in questions.. here's an example:.
dear watchtower,.
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Dear Watchtower,
Is it wrong to pray when I'm in the shower? It seems to be the ultimate in humility being naked and vulnerable when praying to Jehobah. Usually I get a good feeling when I'm praying all naked in the shower like that, but sometimes I get aroused unintentionally after washing my privates. Do you think this makes Jehovah uncomfortale? Should I stop washing down there?
Sincerely,
TimeBandit.