Nope wrong guy Danni. I will send you another email.
Kismet
i posted this same topic earlier but it didn't go through so i have to do it again.. i didn't think my ten questions would cause a person(youknow) to be attacked because his opinions was different from the majority.. alanf.
i don't know you personally and i don't know what you have gone through in your life, but i can say from what i have seen in here you have a lot of angry,hate, and other issues inside you that needs to be dealt with.
you oblivious have some sort of history with this man.
Nope wrong guy Danni. I will send you another email.
Kismet
i already said farewell in my apology post to julie.
but many of you may not have read it since it was specific to her.. i was planning a long farewell statement because i have a number of things i want to share, but decided i would do that in private if anyone wishes.
you can reach me at [email protected].. i chose to leave for a number of reasons, and some stated on my last post.
Nice edits.
Glad to see you left in your usual insults tho. ooops yeah thats right silly me, insulting people... that is supposed to be my MO according to you. LOL
For those who share your apparent inablity to read what was posted, I simply questioned the reason for continuing to kick (insult) Amazing. The point has been made over and over. There must be something about someone who continues to beat someone even after they have left....
As far as my getting an education like yours? I think I'll pass. I would hope my education would make me a better person. It seems likes yours has simply made you bitter but with a better 'professional' vocabulary (though you might want to keep working on that too).
There is not one person here at Simon's who has more of a reputation for gutter-like language, hurling insults and venomous posts than you. Tho I must congratulate you for having one whole post written with ahem 'passion' where you didn't need to resort to using your favorite four letter word.
And now look who is trying to censor who? Telling me to go back to H20..what??I don't have the freedom to speak here? Ohh it is only Tina that is allowed such freedom...I understand now. sheeeesh But I doubt if you can see the hypocrisy in that statement of yours.
If you are an example of what higher (mh) education does I think I will look elsewhere for my education. Perhaps in your strides to become an actual therapist you should visit one more often.
Obviously we both have issues to work on.
Kismet
i posted this same topic earlier but it didn't go through so i have to do it again.. i didn't think my ten questions would cause a person(youknow) to be attacked because his opinions was different from the majority.. alanf.
i don't know you personally and i don't know what you have gone through in your life, but i can say from what i have seen in here you have a lot of angry,hate, and other issues inside you that needs to be dealt with.
you oblivious have some sort of history with this man.
I like your approach to things Danni.
Just further to Lilacs comment, the more common Legal cases will likely paint the JW's in a favourable light for their efforts in developing and fighting for various freedoms enjoyed in North America.
However as you review those Supreme Court cases one has to ask would the JW's give the same freedoms to individuals in the organization, freedom of speech, freedom of association? just to name a few.
I hope that is of help.
Kismet
i already said farewell in my apology post to julie.
but many of you may not have read it since it was specific to her.. i was planning a long farewell statement because i have a number of things i want to share, but decided i would do that in private if anyone wishes.
you can reach me at [email protected].. i chose to leave for a number of reasons, and some stated on my last post.
Tina:
This is a new year you really must come up with new material. yawn.
As far as things I need to work on? Yeah there are many. However as far as such issues you raised (that seem to be more of an issue for you than myself btw -seeing how you continue to bring them up over and over) should I need advice, I think I prefer to get advice from a real professional who actually speaks to their clients.... Not some online therapist wannabe. Maybe one day you will be one. Keep working on it.
And just as an FYI, the purpose of my post was to help someone who I think is likely being very hurt by the continued barrage against them.
Freedom of speech is wonderful except when it is used to further abuse and intentionally hurt someone. One of your apparent favourite uses of your freedom.
Kismet - who thinks he'll return to the 'just ignore Tina' mode now
i already said farewell in my apology post to julie.
but many of you may not have read it since it was specific to her.. i was planning a long farewell statement because i have a number of things i want to share, but decided i would do that in private if anyone wishes.
you can reach me at [email protected].. i chose to leave for a number of reasons, and some stated on my last post.
While not getting into the whole argument again, I think the board is learning as much about those that are continuing to beat the proverbial dead horse as they have about the 'dead horse.'
Kismet
here is another unequivocal example of a claim of direct inspiration: in the olin moyle court case of 1943, fred franz said under oath that no man is the editor of the watchtower.
who, then, is the editor?
who became the editor?
YK,
Your short memory is revealing itself again.
If you, in your comment to Alan, are referring to the time someone at H20 tried to out you to your elders etc, you are forgetting that it was ythe most stalward apostates that defended youand condemned that person threatening you.
The administrators and Moderators backed you completely as did Farkel and Alan. I think you insulted the wrong person... not that you care.
Kismet
i already said farewell in my apology post to julie.
but many of you may not have read it since it was specific to her.. i was planning a long farewell statement because i have a number of things i want to share, but decided i would do that in private if anyone wishes.
you can reach me at [email protected].. i chose to leave for a number of reasons, and some stated on my last post.
Julie:
thanks for your reply and I look forward to the email exchange.
Just a clarifying point on your PS...those were words Amnesian used in the second post, not you.
Talk to you soon.
Kismet
i already said farewell in my apology post to julie.
but many of you may not have read it since it was specific to her.. i was planning a long farewell statement because i have a number of things i want to share, but decided i would do that in private if anyone wishes.
you can reach me at [email protected].. i chose to leave for a number of reasons, and some stated on my last post.
Hey Julie:
I have intentionally stayed out of this matter. I personally saw both sides making valid points.
However on the personalization issue, I just went back and started reading the threads from the beginning.
In Amnesian's second reply in that first thread, she started using terms like you, all you elders, everyone who served as an elder is guilty, when you went up on the platform puffing your chest...this of course would be viewed as a personal comment against amazing (or really any male who happened to serve in that capacity who might be reading the thread).
It was not Amazing who started making it a personal issue IMO.
And honestly I don't see why you are finding it necessary to pull him down and insult him with every one of your posts on this matter. He has already conceded to a degree ..he has been 'humbled' why is it necessary to continue to kick him when he is down and most likely gone? And no I am not an Amazing worshipper or anything.
Just seems out of charactor to the more charitable-minded, kind-hearted Julie I knew at H20.
Kismet - my email si the same if you want to discuss it that way... besides I wouldn't mind catching up on what's new in your life etc.
last oct.i was shocked to be invited to a "legal" party to be held in feb. i was under the impression i had been "marked" since i was out of the loop close to a decade.. so i checked the box that we'd be attending the big 50 anniversary of my aunt & uncle, i included the un fax & articles from guardian paper.
on the return card i added an asterisk by the checkmark.. "can you verify that there will be no public reading of "softball" articles of "awake" promoting the un at this event?
i'd hate to see my young daughter exposed to the spiritual sight of watchtower's feet 666' in the air.. i received a reply this week.. dear ..... thank you for your response to our anniversary party invitation.
Maybe I did come down too hard.
However it doesn't change the fact that IMO it was rude on his part.
All his actions accomplished was to make his family dig in their heels and put blinders on. Such actions should be discouraged not encouraged.
His JW family actually invited him to a function, reaching out an olive branch despite his being out of the org for 10 years. He shoved that olive branch in their face with his actions.
People here condemn the Witnesses for shoving their beliefs in other people's faces, it would be hypocritical not to point out the same fault when done by ex-JW's.
Kismet
last oct.i was shocked to be invited to a "legal" party to be held in feb. i was under the impression i had been "marked" since i was out of the loop close to a decade.. so i checked the box that we'd be attending the big 50 anniversary of my aunt & uncle, i included the un fax & articles from guardian paper.
on the return card i added an asterisk by the checkmark.. "can you verify that there will be no public reading of "softball" articles of "awake" promoting the un at this event?
i'd hate to see my young daughter exposed to the spiritual sight of watchtower's feet 666' in the air.. i received a reply this week.. dear ..... thank you for your response to our anniversary party invitation.
I don't think it has as much to do with marking as it does with showing poor taste.
I personally would have univited you too if you had shown such callous disregard for a happy family function to preach or shove your personal religious beliefs in my face like you did. Just like many claim the Witnesses do to their unbelieving family members.
Hey I dislike the fact about the WTBS whoring itself to the UN as much as anyone here, but how you presented it was in my opinion, poor etiquette, reaching far over the line of rudeness.
I think you owe your family an apology for poor timing.
Did you really expect them to react any differently to your reply?
Why do some insist on behaving like WT stereotypical apostates?
Kismet