Damn ..forgot my thought...
"The trouble with our times is that the future is not what it used to be."
Paul Valery
KissAFish
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NUKES: THE ULTIMATE WEAPON OF TERROR
by You Know ininitially this post was a response to a question by a poster about the likelihood of an atomic weapon being detonated in the near future.
in order to preserve this topic i have moved it to this forum.. __________________________________________________________________ .
history is at a great turning point.
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NUKES: THE ULTIMATE WEAPON OF TERROR
by You Know ininitially this post was a response to a question by a poster about the likelihood of an atomic weapon being detonated in the near future.
in order to preserve this topic i have moved it to this forum.. __________________________________________________________________ .
history is at a great turning point.
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KissAFish
Hey guys..Now that GB members are getting voted in..I say my bet is with this Brother You Know.. he is a JW marketing genius.. Spieling the same old you know...****...He forgets..we have heard it all before..Gotta love the SMOOOTH transition from global Nuking to ..BIOLOGICAL (pestilence)..warfare..... OOOOOOOOOOOOOH PUUUUHLEEEEEEEEEEEESE... and you know ....something else... discussion is "normal" you have to get used to that ..Just an Observation from a "MARKED ONE"....
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KissAFish
Australia...???
"A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."
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SEX, LIES, DEMONS, & APOSTASY
by You Know inthe issue is as old as eden itself, that being: does god have the right to tell us what to do?
that core question, more than anything else, defines what jehovahs witnesses are about, in that we are outspoken advocates and supporters of jehovahs right as sovereign to require obedience from his creatures.
the flip side of that is, of course, rebellion against god, which is expressed in numerous ways and on all levels of society.
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KissAFish
This simple.. God +supreme being.. he made humans..( or used evolution.to, whatever your belief....) the essential factor in knowing God, is to read the bible see the story of life..and lets face it..Hardly any 2 people interpret it the same...The Bible is a story an expression of gods love and a statement of God evolving to letting humans use their god given free will to make choices decisions and live with them....And handing us the earth and each other as a means to experience all.. But this of course is only my interpretation and how I CHOOSE to see it..in a gentle non denominational way.. the way God intended.. Religion and all the argumeants and pulling apart and sectarianism and cultism is purely mans take on God...he gave us choice and we as a race and individual affect our own futures..
"What man does not understand, he fears; and what he fears, he tends to destroy. "
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Update on my Brother and Cousin...
by mindfield inas some of you know, my brother and cousin have been planning to tell their parents about their beliefs (or rather, lack of) about the jw's and their decision not to attend meetings or convert others.. well, they did it much quicker than i ever expected.
they did it before yesterday, to be more precise.
both of them...phew.
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KissAFish
It is unfortunately not hard for me to comprehend, mindfield.. My mum and Dad kicked me out at 17, and I was still a JW...!!! A questioning one though.. I always remember Elders * my dad had stepped down as one due to family bickering*.being involved in EVERY fight both my older brother and I had, and on e particular elder had said" if your Mother and Father tell you to sleep on the roof ..you do it..".They also made us Write out a contract of good behavoiur( I kid you not), and I and my brother had to sign it..me at 14 my brother at 17....Parental love and unconditional love at that, which is a right everyone should have..goes out the window when dealing with JW'S your parents or not.and Andrew, to answer you ..in a way... I was quite happy to stay in my family..but had the right to not believe in what my parents were choking down my throat, as I had an immense feeling God was for everyone not a select group of people..
"The past is but the beginning of a beginning and all that is and has been is but the twilight of the dawn."
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why, what made you join JWs?
by tosko ini would like some brief stories of people saying the reasons they joined jw organisation.
where you already in another church, were you disillusioned, were you biblically illiterate?
and if it is possible, please let me know where you come from, hoping you're not all from usa.
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KissAFish
I was BORN into HUGLEY FANATICAL JWS.. * my mum breathed fire while preaching!!* My Dad was an elder for years...and yet I can never remember believing a word of it all..I wrote chrissy cards to all my school friends* hehehe*...I left in 1992 at age 17..and never looked back..even when my Dad phoned me to say my Mum was diagnosed with terminal myeloma ( cancer) and it was my fault and my brothers for leaving the BORG.. She died as a feverent JW with the words.".Please come back... You will be Satan's fodder otherwise* rolling my eyes*..." my Dad remarried 4 months after my Mums death.... to a fellow JW (?) and I have 2 sisters still in the religion, one is divorcing her hubby (bitterly..going after every cent..urged on by elders and fellow JWS ).. because he "fell away" in other words found the courage to leave and question the religion,my other sister carries on her own secret rebellion by asking ex family members to take her clubbing and she has meetings via the phone line...(?)..But she is till doing the JW thing otherwise.. Me... I am a free spirit who has an answer for every JW coming my way..
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and --
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference. "
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SEX, LIES, DEMONS, & APOSTASY
by You Know inthe issue is as old as eden itself, that being: does god have the right to tell us what to do?
that core question, more than anything else, defines what jehovahs witnesses are about, in that we are outspoken advocates and supporters of jehovahs right as sovereign to require obedience from his creatures.
the flip side of that is, of course, rebellion against god, which is expressed in numerous ways and on all levels of society.
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KissAFish
Oooh you guys KILL me.. so witty.. best way to handle life..Anyway... I am so sick of the JW focus on sex.. How I reason it is.. God made man ( and WOMAN!!) with all the necessary organs to greatly enjoy sex, and he also gave us free will, that is the right to chose for ourselves our paths in life, put the 2 together and VOILA!!!! you get..a god who made us to individually express our own sexuality..( be it whatever THAT is)...if you have to focus on the ity bity nitty gritty, YOU KNOW NOT!! you miss the bigger picture.. I mean the dub rules are like studying law... The whole reason ( if you believe in Christ coming to Earth) Jesus came to Earth was to simplify ALL the RULES that the religious leaders of his day were spouting.. and make it in to one almighty law..LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.. That is GOD... love... UNCONDITIONAL LOVE...not a bunch of monkey suited....stuck up pigheaded class distincting poo heads!!! ( giggle).. Jesus did away with the need of an organization.. you guys are in the class of Pharisees and SAD ( U SEES( hehehe)....you pick and choose what applies and deny all when caught out.. (tut tut).. You half quote all the scriptures you have mentioned( what about reading around the WHOLE scriptures.. hell ...you guys might have to change EVERY belief you have then.. . THE ORGANIZATION has though done the ULTIMATE BOO BOO..by changing the WHOLE bible to suit its religious fundamental beliefs..That alone to me..proves how wrong it is.. and yes you give the ultimate brainwashed spiel..but you forget that all ex dubs know and refute that all.. it is not apostasy...it is free thinking.. OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT..... you should try it..
"When one door closes another one opens; but we so often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door, that we do not see the ones which open for us. "
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I'm sick of this boring life!!
by Nicolas ini'm really tired of always having to fight.
i don't have any friends in this world and i don't want to return to the evil watchtower.
it seem to me that everyone else around have fun and enjoy the life while, i still don't know what to i do with my life.
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KissAFish
Unfortunately something we all can come out with is the fact of judging everyone..scrutinizing all things... but I can say..I have met, since leaving jws, some of the kindest most "christian " people i have ever met.. you have to regain confidence step into the world take it by the balls and love it..all things good are out there too, more so then in a closed circuit religion..Enjoy...
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow."
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Tatto`s
by Beans inhow many of you have gotten them since leaving or piercings?
i got my ear pierced right after i left and when i was living at home my dad said i couldn`t have it on in the house.i got a tatto about six years ago the look on my dads face was priceless at the beach but he never said anything.. beans.
if you don`t have anything good to say,say it often!
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KissAFish
I have got a tatt..cute little butterfly..* girlie I know..but I was still a JW..hehe*..and I have had belly button pierced for a few years...... and nipple ring.. got to say .. havent been able to bring myself to get a tongue one done..friends play with them too much..distracting .. but mmm they are great on guys.. :)
"We are accustomed to say that the truth makes men free.
It does nothing of the kind.
It is the knowledge of the truth that creates freedom.
"Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
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What is going on?
by gilwarrior inthe following was a letter that i wrote to myself several weeks ago.
i'm not sure what to make of this.
ok, tonight i went to my dance class.
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KissAFish
Speaking as someone who has Only done a couple of psych units, it is a panic disorder,( attack) as well as a lack of self esteem.. These are common in people who leave cults ( very strong closed religions too). You are taught the outside world is BIG nasty and people are not what they seem.. this does affect your sub conscious behaviours and therefore affects social skills and being able to make natural flowing conversations and you can panic in social situations and be dumbstruck to talk and then not able to assert yourself which leads to anger over it all...Or I .....could be dribbling absolute **** and people are just hard to talk too..But having been there.. it is able to be overcome..I was raised as a JW and that stripped all my self confidence, I left at 17.. I am now 26 and have had to slowly teach myself how to behave, think and talk in social circles..and am happy to say, I AM NORMAL now.. (TIC) It will happen..be patient and go see a counsellor..they are very helpful with esteem and panic disorders issues..
"The living moment is everything".
D.H. Lawrence