Been out over a year now. Never went back. Been visited three times by two Elders. Told them I was attending spanish and everything was fine. The regular publishers dropped me like a rock. They used to eat at my restaurant on the weekends. The first weekend I did not attend they never came back. Not in one year. Not to say hello or anything.
Botzwana
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How long can one continue as an unbelieving JW?
by mankkeli inis it really possible to continue as a jw but not believing in it anymore.
for how long can one keep up with this pace of life?.
i will appreciate it if any scientific study had been done on this and what has the result showed?..
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Iraq War Will Cost More Than World War II
by Bangalore iniraq war will cost more than world war ii.. http://www.csmonitor.com/business/new-economy/2011/1025/iraq-war-will-cost-more-than-world-war-ii.
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Botzwana
The RV of the Iraqi Dinar SHOULD help too.
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Botzwana
I told my Elders I was going to move to spanish. I do NOT understand spanish. Therefore my fade has worked.
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Unconditional love?
by Snoozy inwhatever happened to "unconditional love"?.
why is it today so many are willing to shun a friend or relative because they are just too much trouble or they do something that irritates them.... they claim that the other person is "not healty for them" or "harmful to their mental health" be it a relative or a goof friend.
too ready to write them off so to speak.. what happened to the kind of unconditional love that loves in good and bad times..... i don't get it... i guess "unconditional love" doesn't exist anymore.
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Botzwana
Snoozy, Have you ever seen the movie Mommie Dearest? That is my mother. I have no contact with the woman anymore. She is just toxic. This goes far beyond just being a cranky family member.
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Thanks for your help !
by 3rdgen into all the posters on this board, your thoughts, experiences, and research have helped me more than you can imagine!
until recently i was a true believer of more than 50 yrs.
as my name implies, i am third generation from both parents going back to the turn of the previous century.
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Botzwana
I second that 3rdgen! I was an ass when I first came here under the name of Bane. But reading JWfacts and this site etc. I have learned so much! Thanks to this board as well. I cannot wait to leave Mexico and go live in another state of the U.S. where no one knows me and start over with Christmas and Halloween etc.
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Who else remembers the poster fred7777??
by unshackled in.
i miss fred7777...he was one helluva an apostate.
though his time here was brief he will not be forgotten..
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Botzwana
New Chapter, THANK YOU! That was the funniest two pictures I have seen since I have been here. Hilarious! I needed a good laugh today and that was it.
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Are you sure leaving the JW religion has made your life better?. Lurkers think twice
by mankkeli inon this forum, i have carefully read most of the experiences of those who left the jw religion, i have even read experiences that have dated back to 2001, i have read the different circumstances surrounding their exits and what ensued upon leaving.
for the majority, i observed they are better remainning in the religion than leaving.
what benefit is there to strain family relationship because you want to be free?, please tell me, of what value is that freedom?,.
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Botzwana
How has it affected me? Ask my WORLDLY wife! She says our marriage is much happier when I am not putting the religion down her throat or play out some I am the head of the house game to her. We are getting along much better because of my fading from the religion. It has been great!
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Inactive, yet shunned!
by TimothyT inmy dad (49) (who was an elder for 10 year and hasnt been to the meetings now since april when i stopped going) sent a message to a younger unbaptised brother (19) in my congregation to see if they would like to get together and jam on their guitars.
the younger brother responded that he would like to but since my dad hasnt been to the meetings in a long time he feels its innapropriate.. needless to say my dad was a little pi**ed but at the same time he cant understand how he is also now being shunned despite the fact that he isnt even disfellowshipped.
why do these people show such conditional love when jesus taught the absolute opposite?.
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Botzwana
I am in the same boat but a little different. I am being shunned though NOT inactive. I simply tell the brothers I am attending the spanish hall. But the oh so loving brothers STILL shun me! They used to come in my restaurant and haven´t for a year. They are bastards!
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So i'm out treat or treating and I come home with a dog! WTFrick??
by watersprout inso we are out treat or treating and i notice a dog very distressed howling and shaking with fear... so i try and approach her but she starts growling at me.
carrot rings the doorbell of the house that she is hiding on and the people have never seen her before... quite a few neighbours come out and we eventually win her round... she is terrified and very disorientated.... we scoure the streets looking for her owners but to no avail... all we can gather from her behaviour is that she was most likely thrown from a car... she has not long finished whelping a litter and is clearly distressed... we end up bringing her back for the night and has not left carrot alone... she has been lying on him, licking and kissing him.
all she has wanted is to be curled up on his lap.... obviously he is her saviour!
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Botzwana
Living in Mexico is the KING of the stray animals. I have NO room for one though. I could rescue many if I had more landspace to put them...And the thing is...I LOVE Dogs! I have NEVER been able to have one in my life. Always lived in apartments. Now I own a house and no land outside. It sucks.
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James Beverley's book on Penton's expulsion now on Abebooks
by MrMonroe in"crisis of allegiance" is a slim, but excellent book written by a professor of religion on the events in lethbridge, alberta, around 1981, that led to the expulsion of jim penton, a jw who believed he was anointed but also happened to think the wts had some doctrines wrong.. it's a great read that ties in quite closely with the campaign to get rid of ray franz, showing the dirty tricks used by the society to rid themselves of someone who dared to question them.
penton was an academic who the society loved when he wrote a book on their human rights legal challenges ... but when he expanded his research and decided to do a book on their history, pow!
they began regarding him with great suspicion.
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Botzwana
Farkel...I LIVE in Mexico...I actually accidentely moved to his town of Ajijic back in 2006 while I was still a witness. The brothers told me the head apostate Penton used to live there but he recently moved back to Canada.