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  High Profile Case: Seeking Reinstatement

  by headisspinning in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  but our situation is very difficult and quite high profile.... i was raised as a jw and my mother was very strict and abusive.

  i got baptized at age 14.. my mother actually called on my (present) husband's mom in service.

  she was on the initial call resulting in his mom coming in the truth and him being raised in it from about age 8 or 9.. despite a very abusive step-father, he followed his mom's lead and came into the truth.

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  FloridaPerry

  "I still believe the Truth"

  This, in a nutshell, is the problem.
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  What is it with JW's and the Cross?

  by FloridaPerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  history shows people were hung on stakes and crosses, why do the jw's make a big deal about the cross?

  isn't jesus dying for the sins of man the issue?

  the cross was a part of the jw's early on.

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  FloridaPerry

  "JWs: "The cross is a pagan, phallic symbol."

  I've heard my mother talk about "phallic" symbols when we drive by a church. It's like all these people are children of Satan, wanting to advance Lucifer's will and Jehovah's Witnesses are the only people standing in his way. All these people are against Jehovah's Witnesses because they know that they are trying to bring truth into the world and they want the ways of Satan to prevail. In fact, in the life I have lived, the best people that I have met were hardly aware of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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  Do you believe that Armstrong was really on the moon?

  by Newborn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we had a discussion at lunch today.

  some are sure he wasn't and some sure that he was.. i want to believe that he was there.. just interesting to hear what you think?.

  /newborn.

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  FloridaPerry

  My father was literally a "rocket scientist" for NASA. I remember him being away for the Apollo Missions. He was actually a backup Astronaut. I remember Dr. Wernher von Braun coming to our house for dinner. I was raised around the space program. You're some kind of ignorant if you think the moon mission was a fraud. That said, my mom's dad (a great guy and an Iowa corn farmer) did not believe it happened. His own son in law designed some major systems for the Apollo missions and he didn't believe it ever happened.
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  What is it with JW's and the Cross?

  by FloridaPerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  history shows people were hung on stakes and crosses, why do the jw's make a big deal about the cross?

  isn't jesus dying for the sins of man the issue?

  the cross was a part of the jw's early on.

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  FloridaPerry

  History shows people were hung on stakes and crosses, why do the JW's make a big deal about the Cross? Isn't Jesus dying for the sins of man the issue? The Cross was a part of the JW's early on. The reason for his death and his death is the issue, not the instrument that was used to carry it out. Is this just another "control" tactic with them? A solidifying of the base? Why is it a big issue with them?
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  Anybody else drink too much alcohol and want to stop?

  by new light in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been drinking heavily my entire adult life with the exception of about two very happy years and i feel it is now time to try and put it down (again).

  it's hard, though, as there is no one to impress except myself.

  last time i quit, at least i worked with some sober people whom i found much more relatable with a clear mind and that provided at least a little more inspiration to continue.

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  FloridaPerry

  I heard some one say about people who have drank heavy a long time that they're committing suicide, and they're doing it to someone that they don't even know. So true.
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  Anybody else drink too much alcohol and want to stop?

  by new light in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been drinking heavily my entire adult life with the exception of about two very happy years and i feel it is now time to try and put it down (again).

  it's hard, though, as there is no one to impress except myself.

  last time i quit, at least i worked with some sober people whom i found much more relatable with a clear mind and that provided at least a little more inspiration to continue.

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  FloridaPerry

  One of the big problems long time drinkers have is that they can't remember life without drinking. When you want to drink, you don't see a hangover and feeling physically, mentally, spiritually and emotionally raped after a drunken binge. Nope, you see a happy time with the guys watching the game, walking into Cheers and all the guys screaming, "NORM!" or cooking out, listening to music and having a good time, people laughing and having fun. It's a deception. Reality is much different than the world that is in your head. Why you drink, and drink abusively, you need to come to grips with that. Looking back, I was running from the pain and confusion of being raised a JW. That is why I had to, 30 years later, take a look at what happened to me before I could move on. To have compassion for that young guy who took a lot of wrong turns. To understand why he took them. To understand why I always had such a feeling of guilt, lack of self worth, and sense of impending doom. To REALIZE that JW's were NOT the only people with the truth. In fact, they are not of the truth, at least the WTBTS is not. The truth is that they are a cult, with very effective mind control techniques. They have destroyed a lot of lives, several of those lives in my own family. Stepping back from it after all these years, it is much easier to see who they are. I feel for those still in or just getting out. There are a lot of reasons people might abuse alcohol, but finding out why you do so is important. Some people avoid a problem by drinking, the problem is long gone, but now they're left being an alcoholic. You have to view life as being a non-drinker, and even though you may not be able to see it at first, have faith that your life will improve and get better and better with drinking out of it. God Bless.
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  Anybody else drink too much alcohol and want to stop?

  by new light in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been drinking heavily my entire adult life with the exception of about two very happy years and i feel it is now time to try and put it down (again).

  it's hard, though, as there is no one to impress except myself.

  last time i quit, at least i worked with some sober people whom i found much more relatable with a clear mind and that provided at least a little more inspiration to continue.

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  FloridaPerry

  Admitting you're an alcoholic is big. I drank most of my life, but I always knew I could quit if I "really wanted to". I was right, but I also had to admit I was an alcoholic. I wasn't a one or two drinker. Once I started, I was going to get drunk. I never even liked the taste of alcoholic drinks. It dawned on me one day that I did not like drinking. I didn't like hangovers, I didn't like not being able to move forward in ANYTHING because I was always starting over from scratch in trying to get my life together after a drunk or a drunken period. Don't drink for a week, get drunk, you're starting over again from day one. I'd get depressed, disgusted with myself, and get drunk to avoid dealing with it. It got to where I didn't really get "drunk", I just drank and passed out. It didn't make me feel "good" anymore. It was a "habit" of behavior. Counting the number of days that it had been since I had a drink was no good for me. I had to do it some other way. I started to look at myself as an alcoholic, because it was the truth. I wanted to quit because I didn't want to be an alcoholic. I didn't want to be a drinker because I started taking note of the pain that I had cause in my life and others around me. I didn't want to be "that guy" any longer, after I realized that I WAS "that guy".

  So, I quit viewing myself as a drinker. Pretty simple. I WAS a drinker, but not any longer. If you count the days since you last drank, you haven't let go of it. Being an alcoholic is not an issue with me, because I'm not a drinker. Get up in the morning and go on with better things in life. The drinking days sucked, but that's in the past, you don't drink. Pray to the Lord for him to take drinking away from your life. It works. No more fighting that demon, he takes it away from you. This happened to me and I wish you well in becoming a non-drinker.
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  What proportion of Jehovah's Witnesses will make a convert in their lifetime?

  by stapler99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in another thread it was being discussed how inefficient the door-to-door preaching is, and i thought this raised an interesting question - what proportion of jehovah's witnesses will make a convert in their lifetime?.

  in my experience, i can think of two or three people that my parents have studied with and who were later baptized.

  but i know of so few baptisms that it is hard for me to think about it.

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  FloridaPerry

  How many of those baptised are the children of JW's? The internet may be the worst thing that ever happened to the JW's. With the touch of a finger you can find out things about the JW's that you could never find out before.
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  Two Questions

  by Giordano in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went to the biblical research & commentary international that mouthy mentioned in the "i stopped going to the kingdom hall" thread and clicked on a time magazine article which covered raymond franz's story.. .

  http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,922767-1,00.html.

  in the article on page 2 it mentioned "as a refugee from bethel and his life's work, he found himself with few marketable skills, a $10,000 settlement from headquarters and $600 in personal savings.

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  FloridaPerry

  There was no agreement, they just sent him the $10,000. From what I can tell of the man, if they had not of bothered him, he would have just kept to himself and gone on. It appears to me ARROGANCE raised its ugly head. You don't question me! And, they had to make an example out of him. It looks like they chose the wrong guy to make an example out of. Should have picked someone less intelligent and who didn't value the truth as much as Franz did. Backed him into a corner, hurt him as bad as they could, and he wrote "Crisis of Conscience". That has helped a lot of people leave a cult. The Lord works in mysterious ways.
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  Is The Governing Body Paid? If So, How Much?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just curious.

  if they have living expenses, it must mean that they do their jobs all the time.

  but these men also are of the anointed class, right?

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  FloridaPerry

  Jesus may be getting mad at JW's for moving in and pushing him out of so many jobs that were supposed to be his. I wonder if he'll file a complaint with Jehovah? I wonder which one he favors over the other?