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  Interesting piece about Stephen Lett and family: property developers

  by Diogenesister in

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  another very well researched programme by the blue envelope exploring stephen lett's bio and his family interest in property.

  interestingly his parents were pioneering until the new service year 1975 , when they immediately changed tack and began investing in properties along the gulf coast.

  once again, highly recommended veiwing.. https://youtu.be/9qh0jbvsdrc.

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  Muppets have parents?
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  Whatever became of Marvin Shilmer?

  by careful in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  12 hours ago someone resurrected a post by marvin shilmer from years ago.

  it was then that i realized that i haven't seen a post from him for a while.

  a check shows it's been 4 years.

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  Or maybe he retired.
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  Whatever became of Marvin Shilmer?

  by careful in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  12 hours ago someone resurrected a post by marvin shilmer from years ago.

  it was then that i realized that i haven't seen a post from him for a while.

  a check shows it's been 4 years.

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  Maybe the WT Secret Police... "disappeared" him...
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  What Makes. Person A Pedophile?

  by minimus in

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  it seems the news always has another report of a pedo stalking children or hurting them.

  i know this has gone on forever but i read another report of an illegal alien with a history of abuse taking advantage of another poor child.. i just don’t understand why some people do this.

  is there an actual brain abnormality?

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  Re Rattigan's post...

  The fuck???
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  What is the benefit of God's Kingdom?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the benefit of god's kingdom?.

  the watchtower said when it started out in 1879 that god's kingdom had already arrived in heaven in 1874 and that its work would be complete by 1914. .

  with heroic slogans of "destroying the kings of the earth" and "all enemies of christ the king" etc by 1914, "god fearing" humankind was to have been restored to prelapsarian innocence and the earth to a global edenic paradise.

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  If you'd asked my Dad back in the day, he'd have said that in God's Kingdom, everyone would act righteously... or else (paraphrasing, obviously, but that's the gist).
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  Do you think any of the GB have different beliefs?

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  do you think any higher ups know that much of the doctrine they teach is bunk?

  thinking back to the time of raymond franz, how he pointed out specifically numerous teachings that the churches really did have right all along, and really any of the hidden mic apostacy trials you listen to on youtube, you see that even when inconvenient bible teachings are proven, the elders just try to sweep it under the rug and move on.

  i think i remember franz saying how one of the gb approached him somewhat sympathetically, but there was nothing he could do.. whether you believe in the bible or not, there are some basic beliefs common among most denominations because they're just so plainly stated, such things as heavenly life for all christians, no central authority structure, minimal use of god's name, etc.

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  If they do, I would imagine they keep it to themselves.

  Although we have read a few stories here about the shouting matches overheard behind the closed doors of GB staff meetings.

  So maybe not.
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  Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not

  by Research in

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  hello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.

  a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.

  so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.

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  truth_b_known - "ARC is 'apostate'? It can't be apostate if the ARC were never Witnesses."

  Honestly, the way things are going...

  ...I think we're building up to a time where damn near everything outside the WT bubble is arbitrarily labeled as "apostate"...

  ...regardless of its origins.

  Hell, we'd probably be there already if proselytizing wasn't such an integral component of the religion.
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  Expect 90% of pimi's to go down with the ship here's why

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been feeding my very pimi brother tidbits and clippings of all the csa issues coming to light the last five years and all the org's business dealings of hundreds of closed halls congs dissolving etc.

  and reminding him of all the failed prophecies etc etc.

  although he would listen and acknowledge.

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  In addition, I think this reasoning is a big part of why they've stepped up their game in terms of recent countersuits and DCMA takedowns.

  By now, the Org leadership fully buys into their own rhetoric and propaganda (whilst simultaneously knowing it's wrong, but that's another subject), and therefore can't believe they'll lose, partly because of the Org's historical successes in the courts... conveniently forgetting, of course, that said successes were made by canny, shrewd men who only picked the fights they knew they'd win.

  I also suspect that due to the emerging woke-slash-hashtag-metoo environment,at least some of them are privately (and anxiously) just hoping to luck out...

  ...and if they don't...

  ...would rather the Org crash-and-burn rather than capitulate anyway, like virtually every other authoritarian regime in history.
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  Expect 90% of pimi's to go down with the ship here's why

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been feeding my very pimi brother tidbits and clippings of all the csa issues coming to light the last five years and all the org's business dealings of hundreds of closed halls congs dissolving etc.

  and reminding him of all the failed prophecies etc etc.

  although he would listen and acknowledge.

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  slimboyfat - "...If on the other hand the Org was to collapse entirely, and suffer complete defeat, then people would walk away for the whole belief system entirely..."

  Agreed, in no small part because an utter-collapse-slash-complete-defeat would - arguably - be the most elegant proof that the WTS isn't "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization"...

  ...because if it really were, said utter-collapse-slash-complete-defeat shouldn't have been possible.

  
  
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  Do you think there will be panic buying of food, guns ect?

  by JimmyYoung in

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  2. current

  i wonder if there will be panic buying of food, guns, gas ect due to the corona virus.

  what do you guys think?.

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  Pshhh.

  Here, that's just Tuesday.