there was a letter read sunday at our meeting that mentioned some parts of us are starting to open back up.
however, regardless of things opening up that no kingdom halls should be used for any meetings of any kind.
also, no door-to-door ministry or any form of in-person ministry is allowed.
Like I've said, this thing has given the WTS the ideal pretext to shift into an "e-religion"; hell, it couldn't be more convenient if it were planned, IMO.
It'd be a massive cost-saving measure, super-easy, and the rank-and-file is now primed for it...
...all the incentives are in place.
Ten bucks says this becomes semi-permanent regardless of the pandemic's outcome.
jws or mormons.
from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..
Huh... don't know where that "epher" thing came from, and only just noticed it, now. Weird.
Any chance a mod can edit it out?
it's been 12 years since i submitted my resignation letter, and stopped playing by their rules.. in a spurt of manic rationality, i blew up the bridge, sky high.
knowing that the diseased organ would need to be forever removed, away from anything remotely functional in my mind, body, and soul.
lest i be tempted to return.... so, i left.
AllTimeJeff - "...JWs sniff out inactivity very well, since their noses are so high in the air..."
That is - hands down, without a doubt - my new favorite quote.
I can't believe I missed it the first time 'round.
are they revered like the pope is to catholics??
back in the 1960s , fred franz and n.h knorr were the only men that counted.
after franz died, the governing body became more of an idolized entity.
minimus - "How is the Governing Body viewed today by Jehovah’s Witnesses?"
Reality TV stars? 
a little background first.
my first father- in-law, levi peterson was born in 1889. he personally knew rutherford.
he started the newark, ny congregation.
Ironic how much they disdain their own origins, isn't it?
Almost like they're embarrassed, or something.
the watchtower witch-hunters are still sending out subpoena's and closing down websites.
it is safer for simon, this board, and us if we send out internal confidential documents privately.. from time to time i will let you know something has arrived that you might want.
just send us a "pm" and we will give you the download links.. you do not need to include any personal information.
It's weird...
...back in the day, they weren't really in the habit of calling attention to themselves in this particular manner.
It suggests - to me, at least - two things...
a) ...that the current leadership far more buy into the rhetoric of their own divine destiny, and inability to lose, or...
b) ...that they're experiencing an increasing underlying feeling of desperation, that fuels increasingly reckless and foolish decision-making..
If it's the latter, then the real question is... why the desperation?
jws or mormons.
from a public point of view not from people within the religion as that would be obvious.. examples of extreme beliefs or behaviour would be useful..
epher"Protestantism is the WTS's slightly out-of-touch but generally well-meaning mom... Catholicism is the WTS's old alcoholic uncle who's finally working his way through his 12 steps... and Scientology is the WTS's crazy-ass, mean-as-fuck neighbor from down the street."
Continued, just for fun...
...Judaism is the WTS's eccentric but surprisingly insightful grandpa...
...Buddhism is his ageing hippy pen-pal...
...and Islam is his slightly bipolar nephew from a previous marriage, who doesn't always keep up with his regimen of meds.
scholars generally agree that it was written between the 7th and 4th centuries bce, with the 6th century bce as the most likely period for various reasons.
the book of job .. so according to jw`s about 6,000 years ago satan rebelled against jehovah god ,did jehovah disown him there and then shunning him ?.
apparently not as we can read from the book of job centuries later that satan could still come and go freely before the throne of jehovah in heaven .job 1: 6. and apparently he could still do this for centuries later ,that is coming to and fro before jehovah because according to the jw religion he wasn`t cast out of heaven for another 2,000 years until the 20th century .. now in the case of jesus much of what is said about jehovah and satan also applies to jesus before he came to earth.. but even when he was on earth he didn`t shun satan either in fact he allowed satan to lead him around according to the bible account.luke 4:13 so the devil having concluded all the temptations retired from him until another convenient time .so it wasn`t jesus calling the shots here it was satan .. mark 1: 13 he ,jesus, also shared 40 days in the wilderness with satan letting him tempt him .. so their was no way either jehovah or jesus ever shunned satan the devil according to the bible writings.. and when jesus ascended to heaven after his sacrifice he along with his father jehovah still had association with satan the devil until he was cast out of heaven 2,000 years later ,according to the jw`s..
All academic, IMO.
The real reason the WTS doesn't want members from talking to ex-members is because they don't want 'em to realize why the ex-members actually left.
They even - in a roundabout way - have admitted as much.
i see a lot of kids that rarely get discipline.
they are allowed to do whatever they want and if someone says something to them they don’t want to hear, they blow them off, ignore them or engage in disrespectful talk.. what’s wrong with today’s parents??
they are producing a generation of entitled brats!.
@ minimus...
You realize you're ranting about the exact same thing virtually every single parent from each previous generation has ranted about, probably going back as far as recorded history, right?
quite the contravening question to contemplate for any self avowed devoted jws, which no doubt takes some uncomfortable thinking to consider.. yes back in 1919 the then president of the jws j. rutherford proclaimed that the organization (ibsa, jws) had been selectively chosen by jesus for their unique preaching and evangelical work.. there had already been a proclamation by the past leader of the (wts) ibsa c. russell that he was the faithful slave doing the lords work, will and purpose, but his professing doctrines were also false bible interpretations based upon the theology of pyramidology.. might it be that these men made these proclamations out of the intent of self validating themselves and the literature that they had published and were trying to proliferate ?
making these kind of claims was easy since there was no higher governing body to evaluate these men's endeavors from a theological standing, the american government had opened the door for any individual's self expression of a religious nature.
so anyone in that country could build up their own religoius following unimpeded, even more so if that religion was christian based.. so the real critical question remains how or why would jesus pick these men when their doctrines were so obviously false and probably devised more so from a commercialization agenda ?.
Ditto, pick your fights, folks.
EDIT: and when it comes to said fights, I find it's always best to phrase my salvo as an "unanswerable" question.
