hoser - "I could relate experiences that would make a sailor blush."
Unsurprising.
That much pent-up ideological denial and sexual repression?
'Course it's gonna take the roof off when it finally blows.
does there seem to be a higher incidence of infidelity amongst the jws?.
my brother, who is an active jw and ministerial servant, has an elder friend who was recently disfellowshipped for having an affair with another sister in the hall.
it turns out this sister was divorced a few years earlier from a "worldly" man who had an affair on her.
hoser - "I could relate experiences that would make a sailor blush."
Unsurprising.
That much pent-up ideological denial and sexual repression?
'Course it's gonna take the roof off when it finally blows.
a thesis: the discursive construction of freedom in the watchtower society.
https://ris.cdu.edu.au/ws/portalfiles/portal/24632569/thesis_cdu_24577264_chester_h.pdf .
be aware, this thesis, although supremely stimulating, thought-provoking, fascinating, attention-grabbing, remarkable, noteworthy, and appealing, the author made use of out of the ordinary, worthy of note, and fascinating words and statements that, for the reader of average intelligence (like me), make for laborious reading.
Phizzy - "...I was struck by the two things that are mentioned as the main problems for the Org. going forward. One was the Internet, which of course Apostates contribute to, profusely, but the Net itself is a problem... The other problem identified is the lack of Higher Education within the org..."
IMO, they're really two sides of the same coin...
...sources of information that successfully call WT ideology into question.
hello all, hope everyone is doing good!!!!.
so my wife tells me yesterday....on saturday we having a emergency disaster class on saturday.
kinda like most corporation have and it's through zoom.
goingthuthemotions - "...The JWs have no clue what to do and will lean on worldly governments to provide what they need..."
Ironic just how dependent on "Satan's World" "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" is for its survival, isn't it?
i posted what follows elsewhere but thought it might be of interest here as well.
my forst posting here so i apologize in advance if this is not in the correct place.. a tribute to ray franz (on what would have been his 98th birthday) and to ed dunlap, his collaborator.
last week would have marked the 98th birthday of a man for whom most of us here have high regard.
Fr.RAS - "...there is a whole series of LDS churches that came out of the Mormons. Not so much with the Witnesses."
Don't kid yourself.
There's a few.
why wasn’t judah punished for sleeping withtamar?
even though she had the legal right to an offspring by his family he still thought he was sleeping with a prostitute.
if it is wrong to even think of having relations with a woman similar to the “sin” of watching pornography why wouldn’t what judah did be wrong?
LongHairGal - "The standards of female beauty probably were a little different back then."
Oh, I don't know.
Our species doesn't evolve that fast.
how many kingdom halls are there worldwide?
even better how many in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.. i'm asking this to get a picture of the total real estate owning of the jw and how this become to the money-cow in these days..
Agreed.
I experience schadenfreude as much as the next guy, and the feeling definitely has its place, but over-the-top gloating has always rubbed me the wrong way*.
Personally, I'm more inclined to present it in a more wry, sardonic manner.
Like this:
...
*American politics seems to encourage it, but it just feels petty and vindictive to me and IMO, fuels divisiveness rather than fixing a problem... as far as I'm concerned, only the very worst villains deserve to have their noses rubbed in it.
a thesis: the discursive construction of freedom in the watchtower society.
https://ris.cdu.edu.au/ws/portalfiles/portal/24632569/thesis_cdu_24577264_chester_h.pdf .
be aware, this thesis, although supremely stimulating, thought-provoking, fascinating, attention-grabbing, remarkable, noteworthy, and appealing, the author made use of out of the ordinary, worthy of note, and fascinating words and statements that, for the reader of average intelligence (like me), make for laborious reading.
Gordano - "The Society like other religions has a morbid fear of masturbation. Why?"
Since Jews, Muslims, and Christians are expected to "follow the example" of their respective religions' founders...
...they simply can't imagine Abraham and Moses, Mohammed, or especially Jesus actually jerking it.
The mental image threatens to melt their brains.
how many kingdom halls are there worldwide?
even better how many in the years 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019.. i'm asking this to get a picture of the total real estate owning of the jw and how this become to the money-cow in these days..
I have difficulty watching Kim and Mike.
I'm sorry, but they remind me just a little too much of the TV reporter in Iron Man 2 who comments on Pepper Potts' promotion by smashing coffee cups with a baseball bat.
IMO, if you want people to take you seriously, you need to talk in a more subdued and serious manner.
i posted what follows elsewhere but thought it might be of interest here as well.
my forst posting here so i apologize in advance if this is not in the correct place.. a tribute to ray franz (on what would have been his 98th birthday) and to ed dunlap, his collaborator.
last week would have marked the 98th birthday of a man for whom most of us here have high regard.
The WTS is long past any possibility of positive reform.
At this point, if they reformed, they'd arguably no longer be "Jehovah's Witnesses".
a while ago the user vinman started a forum thread called: "ray franz was an idiot".
the reaction to it was quite negative but i have to admit that the title of that thread was intriguing to me.
by nature i am an iconoclast.
Saintbertholdt - "Most worrisome is why Franz didn't gun Leo Greenlees in 'Crisis of conscience'. In the book he mentioned Greenlees having to leave while he still resided on the Governing Body. Franz gave his vote to make him step down and yet he kept absolutely silent on the matter of why Greenlees was kicked out. Wasn't his silence complacency? Franz wrote about everything else, why not this particular subject? The Watchtower pedorast scandal already broke three years before the last revision of his first book (2001 and 2004 respectively), yet he still kept silent. Was it too uncomfortable for him or was he just protecting Greenlees and his own reputation? So why wasn't his conscience in crisis over this particular matter?"
I've occasionally wondered this myself...
...and the only explanation can think of was that the rest of the GB may have realized that letting Ray in on the entire Greenlees story would have caused too many difficulties, considering the strain Ray himself was going through at the time (remember, Greenlees - for all intents and purposes - was booted for being gay, not for being a pedophile, in part because back then, the two were often viewed as simply two sides of the same coin)...
...i.e. Ray didn't out Greenless because he himself wasn't privy to the growing child abuse problem (he expressed skepticism that it was a serious problem when questioned some time ago), as the rest of the GB were able to keep him out of that particular loop.