Data-Dog - "...I’ve found that Political views aren’t that dissimilar from Religious views..."
Holy shit, yes.
And if one subscribes to a punitive, authoritarian religious belief system, is it any wonder that they would lean that way politically?
as i had mentioned in one of my past posts, i strongly felt the democrats would win the presidency because they know they can cheat and not get prosecuted.
case in point; everyone involved in the russian conspiracy.
and the republicans just don’t understand that they need to get in the gutter and fight back like the democrats.
Data-Dog - "...I’ve found that Political views aren’t that dissimilar from Religious views..."
Holy shit, yes.
And if one subscribes to a punitive, authoritarian religious belief system, is it any wonder that they would lean that way politically?
a recent wt study was titled: “the resurrection reveals god’s love, wisdom and patience.
apparently there was a lot of speculation on how those resurrected will be needing to be taught god’s ways in last weeks wt study.
does anyone know how the watchtower tries to weasel out of the "resurrection of damnation"?.
What Sea Breeze said.
When you set yourself up to become the very top of the ideological food chain, and the opposite happens, there's nowhere to go but down.
And faced with that downward slide, you make increasingly crazy-ass decisions to keep and maintain the illusion...
...which, of course, further accelerate the slide.
It's called the "nightmare stage" of wishful thinking.
today, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.
the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.
they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.
SBF - "...It’s puzzling why Watchtower didn’t ultimately join the compensation scheme to avoid sanction and reputation damage..."
Pride is a significant factor...
...but more importantly, voluntarily joining would be tantamount to publicly admitting that critics' accusations were right all along, the problem existed in the first place, and that not only were the Org's vaunted "Biblical" policies unable to properly address the problem, but actually made it worse...
...all of which would too severely undermine the Org's claim of "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization" in the eyes of the rank-and-file.
And that is completely unacceptable.
Without that carrot/stick combo, there's virtually no incentive left to even be a JW.
Not to mention that at this point, they don't give a rat's ass about their public reputation...
...as far as they're concerned, they're in the Endgame Last Days now, anyway (on a fundamental level, they're all True Believers), so anything "Satan's World" does to them can't help but ensure/accelerate their salvation.
Seriously.
today, marking the second anniversary of the australian national apology to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse, the prime minister of australia has announce in federal parliament the intention to place sanctions against the jehovah’s witnesses in relation to child sexual abuse.. quote from prime minister:.
the royal commission [into institutional response to child sexual abuse], the [national] apology [to victims and survivors of institutional child sexual abuse] and these yearly reports are about accountability: bringing the truth into the light ... we still have, reprehensibly, four institutions that have been named publicly and that have blatantly refused to join the redress scheme.
they are jehovah's witnesses ... it's not acceptable.
road to nowhere - "It will be painted as persecution over 'loving' biblical standards..."
Paying back Caesar's things to Caesar is persecution?
i've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.
so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.
are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.
@ hoser...
Seriously?
That's new (to me, at least).
...
Ten bucks says that the Org leadership is too scared of losing their tax-exemption to dare defying secular instructions of closing, KHs, socially door-to-door work (i.e. socially isolating), or - as you said - keeping records...
...no matter how much they may tout "obeying God's laws rather than Man's", or not "compromising with Satan's World".
i've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.
so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.
are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.
road to nowhere - "...Extra zoom meetings for text and 'meeting for service' on zoom... Lots of coercion to attend the extra non official meetings..."
Unsurprising.
With a lack of physical KH-meetings and the door-to-door work (both which acted as the most effective form of tribal bonding amongst the rank-and-file), extra doses of rhetoric and propaganda is vital to maintain organizational cohesion.
It's pretty much all that's left, really.
i've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.
so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.
are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.
As far as I'm concerned, the fact that the door-to-door ministry...
...the most significant defining characteristic of the Jehovah's Witness religion...
...has not only become completely ineffective in its stated purpose, but isn't even being done anymore...
...is the biggest irony.
sex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.
even if you weren’t disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?
?.
Anna Marina - "My view is that the screws are being tightened."
Hell, yes.
In an odd way, this is a positive sign.
Every authoritarian regime in history that tightens the screw does so because it feels threatened.
And why would the Org feel threatened...
...if it wasn't actually at risk?
Not to mention that said screw-tightening always ends up facilitating the decline its meant to stave off.
some have done it for a while but in the last couple of years most all of the jws from my old congregation and others i know have privatized the fb and other social pages.
i wonder if its just happenstance or if its come down from on high to shut this off to further keep them isolated from the apostates?.
"Stick to what we've authorized..."?
Ugh.
Out of all the guys at the top, Top-Shelf Tony's the one I'd like to see brought low the most.
here is one of the many commandments jesus instructed his twelve apostles to keep, follow, and obey!.
here is anthony morris ( supposedly selected by jehovah to keep, follow and obey the sayings of jesus ) name-calling and condemning enemies!
the pharisees used to label people as well.
Way to dehumanize the opposition, Top-Shelf.
Asshole.