"...where else are we to go?"
Who says you have to "go" anywhere?
Posts by Vidiot
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99If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?
by Disillusioned JW insometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?
' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?
' what do you folks say?.
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The Bible and its use of excesses beggars belief ?
by smiddy3 inhow many accounts of the bibles use of excesses can you recall ?
i will start off with a favourit of mine.. the inauguration of solomons temple and the sacrifices offered .2chron.7 :4-5 , 22,000 cattle and 120,000 sheep ?
c,mon.
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Rocketman123 - "The bible writers bullshitted for emphasis and self glorification about many things..."
Even that's saying a bit much.
All indications are that they never intended books like Genesis to be viewed as literal in the first place.
They were theological and cultural teaching aids.
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Watch this, and don’t shoot the messenger...
by DATA-DOG inhopefully i’m doing this right and it will display for you.
this is an interview with michael yeadon, former vice president and chief science officer of pfizer.
of course he has been attacked, slandered, shunned, ect, and this will never be allowed on social media, but he has taken the time to appear in an unpaid interview.
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"Rogue virologists"...
otherwise known as the Umbrella Corporation.
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I Will Give President Biden Credit
by minimus inhe’s really implementing the democrats agenda!
he’s wasting no time !.
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Dissilusioned JW - "...during the years I attended college I did purchase a scientific book and science magazines which did have articles in support of evolution and I did read those articles and I did wonder, while reading them, if evolution is true."
It's amazing how interesting a subject can be when not you're reading about it from a source that's automatically biased against it.
Looking back, realizing evolution had to be true - and more importantly, that creationists' (including the WTS's) efforts to refute it involved misdirection, semantic pretzel-twisting, and information presented out of context (not to mention ignoring inconvenient information)* - was probably my tipping point.
*Once again, for the newbies, lurkers, and trolls...
...if you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don't deserve to be defended.
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May JW Broaadcast - so bad, "it's not even wrong"
by FFGhost indon't know how many of y'all still watch it.. this month's topic is "the king of the north" - cook goes into monotonous detail over the jw interpretation about rome, germany, ussr, russia, etc.. leaving aside for other commentators the emotionally manipulative videos of jws in russian holding cells, the tearjerker interviews, the god-awful stiffness of cook (i suspect he has never genuinely smiled, much less laughed, in his 60+ years), just thought i'd comment on one topic.. the centerpiece of the program is a "morning worship" monologue from splane.
let's again just leave to the side the dude's pomposity, smugness, and inflated sense of his own genius, and think about this part of his monologue.. he was tracing the history of the "king of the north" and talked about how "britain" (not england, not the united kingdom, not great britain, but "britain" - no idea why they have that fixation - anyway...) became the kotn in the 19th century.. paraphrasing his comments: "britain would not have become kotn if france had its way.
france was much wealthier and more powerful, but at the battle of waterloo, britain defeated france.
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JWTV...
...word salad.
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Watch this, and don’t shoot the messenger...
by DATA-DOG inhopefully i’m doing this right and it will display for you.
this is an interview with michael yeadon, former vice president and chief science officer of pfizer.
of course he has been attacked, slandered, shunned, ect, and this will never be allowed on social media, but he has taken the time to appear in an unpaid interview.
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WakeupsheeplewakeupsheepleWAKEUPSHEEPLE!!!!
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The camp of Israel and the problem of pooping
by FFGhost inso, in a couple weeks, the jws move on in their bible-reading slog to the book of deuteronomy.. take a gander at deuteronomy 23:12,13:.
a private place should be designated for use outside the camp, and there is where you should go.
13 a peg should be part of your equipment.
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Basically, the logistics of pretty much everything in the Bible is damn near impossible without either...
a) ...black-swan-type “worldly” elements, or...
b) ...magic.
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I Will Give President Biden Credit
by minimus inhe’s really implementing the democrats agenda!
he’s wasting no time !.
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Rocketman123 - "I think the Canadian style of federal government is better that the US for there appears to be more open debate and criticism from various parties toward the polices that the in power government are making."
A big difference is that we generally don't take a winner-take-all approach, and/or try to stymie the opposition's efforts even when they have sound ideas.
The zero-sum-scorched-earth-humiliate-and-utterly-destroy-the-competion approach to politics might be viscerally satisfying to some, but IMO, it gets in the way of the job of governance.
That's what many of us seem to forget.
A political position is - first and foremost - a fucking job.
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I Will Give President Biden Credit
by minimus inhe’s really implementing the democrats agenda!
he’s wasting no time !.
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Disillusioned JW - "Many ex-JWs (including those on this site) are atheists and most atheists in the USA are politically and socially progressive/liberal..."
True, but the WTS is - by and large - an fundamentally conservative organization, and just because some JWs leave the WT, doesn't mean they leave conservatism per se. Not to mention that the conditioning to distrust "The World" can be somewhat difficult for some to grow past.
Like you, I'm still occasionally surprised to see XJWs lean that way, as I personally had enough of that sort of thing when I was still in...
...but everybody processes their WTexit differently.
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Jws failure to protect their vulnerable follower
by Fadeaway1962 inhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9545969/amp/jehovahs-witnesses-criticised-failing-stop-devout-followers-plan-stab-wife-49-times.html .
elder should face some kind of criminal prosecution..
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"...We mustn't bring reproach onto Jehovah organization..."
My elder Dad used to use this argument, but eventually, I realized that that what he personally meant was "we mustn't give our enemies any ammunition to use against us". I couldn't really blame him for feeling that way, considering how he'd been burned by "worldly" people he'd once trusted.
I'll never forget the look on his face when I suggested that that if and when the abuse was eventually exposed, the evidence of coverup couldn't help but bring far worse "reproach", whereas prompt cooperation and proactive reporting would actually garner the respect of public and secular authorities.
Most loyalists can't think that far ahead, though. It certainly hadn't occurred to him, but to his credit, he acknowledged the sense of what I said.
Of course, the real reason this policy has been in place for so long is that the WT leadership knows if the authorities are informed and they start digging, they'll find further evidence of more abuse...
...which, in turn, becomes exposed, and part of the public record...
...which, in turn, becomes harder and harder to dismiss in the eyes of the rank-and-file...
...which, in turn, too deeply undermines the Org's claims of "God's Exclusive Earthly Organization".
And from their POV, that simply cannot be permitted.
The Org's entire raison d'etre hangs on it.
