do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
Fred Franz’ old Cold-War-centric End Times narrative was too specific for its own good; there just wasn’t enough wiggle room for the finer details if current events didn’t play out according to the script.
The Org seems to be stuck with it, though, ‘cause there’s no one left at WTHQ with the creative and narrative chops to give it a proper 21st-Century overhaul.
At this point, all they can really do is soft-pitch the weirder or more implausible bits and hope it still sticks.
any news about how going back to kingdom halls and door to door ministry going right now?
are there many people at meetings and meetings before going out in service as congregation?.
Weird as fuck.
i recall reading here that a wife was raped at watchtower farms some years ago (can't find it here anymore) by a another bethelite wearing a red flannel shirt.
they found his shirt and booted him.. 'hundreds of new york women are about to sue alleged rapists (and enablers) under a revolutionary new law.
watch out, donald trump.. .
Beth Sarim- “…The Borg has stooped to the point of gathering wills and testaments, air miles, bonds and inheritances and what not…”
Almost has a vibe of desperation, doesn’t it?
Gosh, I wonder why? 😏
what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.
one that comes to mind is.
1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
Thanks to Heaven’s Gate, the Hare Krishnas, and 80s Satanic panic, the “cult” label’s become too overused, I think.
I prefer the term “authoritarian high-control group”.
More accurate, and way harder to refute, IMO.
so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
It’s the same reason they also reject any suggestion of secular history that pre-dates the Bible, the possibility of intelligent extraterrestrial life, and - particularly - the existence of other, genetically distinct of species of hominids.
None of those things are compatible with a Genesis-as-literal-history-based worldview.
so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
Sea Breeze - “The WT does not teach a literal Genesis history.”
You know damn well I’m talking about the Eden narrative.
Christian fundamentalists - the Watchtower Society included - reject evolution, not because it’s “unproven”, “just a theory”, or even scientifically implausible.
They reject it because if it’s true, the Eden account can’t be literal history…
…therefore, Adam and Eve weren’t actual real people, therefore the “Original Sin” (whatever one thinks it is) didn’t actually happen, therefore Jesus’ “ransom sacrifice” wasn’t necessary…
…therefore - from their POV - their understanding of Christianity’s actual purpose and legitimacy is fundamentally undermined.
And that is unacceptable to them.
so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
And they definitely can’t come right out and bluntly say “oops, we were wrong”.
Doing so would too deeply undermine their claims of God’s exclusive favour.
so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
The Org can never budge on evolution.
Genesis-as-literal-history is too deeply baked into WT cosmology.
regardless of belief/non-belief in the bible account, why is the ark nearly always depicted by both believers & non-believers as a huge boat, with a rounded hull & stern, and a tapered bow?
https://arkencounter.com/ .
the ark was crate shaped according to the measurements.
I still find it funny that Ken Hamm’s ark needed modern, state-of-the-art construction technology to build.
😏
as 1975 was approaching, many witnesses sold their property.
do you know about specific cases that are willing to share their experience of doing so?.
TonysOH - “…If Armageddon will come when it is least expected, then it will never happen for JWs. They are in constant expectation of it…”
This.
And they’re specifically told to be in “constant expectation” of it.
