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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

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  2. friends

  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  “I do not think it means what you think it means.”
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  Cult or High Control Group?

  by MillennialDawn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see this phrase a lot: "the indication of a cult is what happens when you leave.

  " i'm not sure where that originated, but it is a faulty categorization.

  "cult" is almost always used in a derogatory way.

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  Agreed.

  I’ve posted my thoughts on this as well, before.
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  Hailstones?

  by NotFormer in

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  2. friends

  when i was interested in things jw two decades or so ago, i never came across these mentions of hailstones.

  it crops up so often now that it's almost a meme!

  when did it become a thing in jw speak, and what does it refer to?.

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  Actually, I think they’re greatest nightmare would be losing their tax-exemption in the US.

  All indications strongly suggest that the Org’s business model has become dependent on it. Lose it, and the WTS goes broke trying to stay in the black.

  If it goes broke, it can’t function. If it can’t function, it can’t survive.

  And if it can’t survive, it can’t really be “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”, can it?

  And that prospect is unthinkable.

  By that chain of logic, loss of the WTS’s tax-exemption threatens the very existence and legitimacy of everything they live for.
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  Hailstones?

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was interested in things jw two decades or so ago, i never came across these mentions of hailstones.

  it crops up so often now that it's almost a meme!

  when did it become a thing in jw speak, and what does it refer to?.

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  Vidiot

  Ten bucks says that if/when they ever lose their tax-exempt status, they’ll find some New Light or other as a pretext to not bother anymore…

  … because I’ve long suspected that the “life-saving” door-to-door work (and more importantly, the record-keeping aspect of it) was really just to create an Autobahn-sized paper trail of “charitable activity” to qualify for tax-exemption, and if that no longer cuts the mustard, then there’s no point continuing it.

  Why do I think that?

  Because of how readily they were - for all intents and purposes - willing to pull the preaching work to a screeching halt during Covid…

  …their tax-exemption may have been at risk if they hadn’t complied with secular authorities’ directives to instruct their people to stay home.

  Not to mention how willing they were to show their throat “Satan’s world” and sign up for the CSA redress scheme in Australia when their charity status there was approaching the chopping block a few years back.
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  Cult or High Control Group?

  by MillennialDawn in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i see this phrase a lot: "the indication of a cult is what happens when you leave.

  " i'm not sure where that originated, but it is a faulty categorization.

  "cult" is almost always used in a derogatory way.

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  Beth Sarim - “It just baffles me how the vast rank and file JWs cant realize all of this.”

  The Org has evolved to specifically seek out and/or keep rank-and-filers who are not emotionally resilient enough to realize it.

  Most of us are here because unexpected circumstances essentially forced that realization onto us…

  …and it was either accept it and adapt or have a nervous fucking breakdown.
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  Hailstones?

  by NotFormer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was interested in things jw two decades or so ago, i never came across these mentions of hailstones.

  it crops up so often now that it's almost a meme!

  when did it become a thing in jw speak, and what does it refer to?.

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  Vidiot

  Remember, folks, even though they know it’s wrong, they still believe it’s True.

  I’ve long suspected that if the WTS was really backed into a corner and its survival was on the line, they’d try something like this as a Hail Mary to provoke the world into some kind of “endgame attack” (as per Freddy Franz’s old Cold War-centric eschatology) in the hopes that God would bail them out with the Big A…

  …and if it didn’t work… well…

  …authoritarian regimes have always opted to crash-and-burn rather than reform, yield, or concede.

  And honestly, I suspect that (even though they’d never say so out loud) if they can’t be “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”, they’d rather be nothing.
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  Whatever happened to JW paedo Michael Porter?

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i remember reading about this guy in a national newspaper in 2010 after he had had his trial for child sex abuse.

  porter avoided prison, despite being guilty of some acts child abuse.. the local elders defended him and were on his side and didn't df him, from what i remember.

  then after an outcry porter was was df'd, and i think sent to prison.. anyone up-to-date on this?.

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  Diogenesister - “…Watchtower has only amended it's rules and mandated sex offenders no longer qualify to become elders because of the public's outrage…”

  That happened way back in ‘02 after the Dateline thing…

  …and they quietly reversed it a couple years later.

  I scratched my head over that one; YTF would they want to do that?

  Then I found out that fewer and fewer young guys were willing or able to “reach out” for “privileges”, and realized…

  …what if the problem was so widespread that if they didn’t minimize the severity of the offence, they wouldn’t have enough “qualified brothers” available to keep things running?

  And that prospect was scary AF.
  
  
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  Ernie Fyans, JW elder CSA abuser from "Palmer Leaks" sentenced in Maine today

  by EasyPrompt in

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  2. child-abuse

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  https://x.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1704588790730256487?s=20.

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  Tahoe - “Will damage control come in the form of claiming Religious Persecution by the ‘Satan’s System of Things’? Will they claim these as false allegations created to stumble Jehovah’s true believers in the Last Days?”

  Already has.

  For all the good it’s done.
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  Are You Raising An Introvert?

  by darth frosty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

  it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

  this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

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  Vidiot

  https://introvertspring.com/introverts-come-out-shell/
  
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  Are You Raising An Introvert?

  by darth frosty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

  it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

  this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

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  Vidiot

  I like this nugget:

  “People always tell introverts to be more talkative and leave their comfort zones, yet no one tells extroverts to shut up and make the zone comfortable.”