what i'm thinking: can a jw be happy that the hour rapport quits?
can you show you are happy with it in the kingdom hall?
knowing it was one of the control systems of the local elders and co?.
Gorb - “…Can you show you are happy with it in the kingdom hall?”
Well…
…as long as it’s not too gushy, you reiterate what a “loving provision” it is, and express the proper gratitude-slash-obsequiousness towards the GB and their “spirit-directed” brilliance…
…sure.
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.
"by bill hickman of rnz.
the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .
Goddamn…
…they gotta be stalling for time.
There’s no fucking way the Org’s lawyers think they can win this one.
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this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!
reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.
Balaamsass2 - “The governing body puts problems to rest...”
Hmph.
Put one to rest, and they create three more for themselves.
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2023-s-147-october-announcements and reminders.. page 1. https://imgbox.com/vjct8rt3 .
page 2. https://imgbox.com/c0tbzgxy .
grandpa!.
SadElder - “The Watchtower made a mistake when they began limiting volunteers at conventions to ministerial servants and elders…”
I’m guessing they figured that doing that would (somehow) incentivize more young guys to “reach out”.
Top-Shelf Tony tried something similar in one of his videos a few years back…
…he basically told all young Witness women that if a young male JW wasn’t an MS, he wasn’t marriageable material.
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i didint search to see if its been talked about.
big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.
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Maybe.
They’d have never done those things, though… the CSA problem was already too wide in scope and ingrained for them to fix it like that.
It arguably metastasized because of the WTS’s insular and authoritarian nature…
…100-plus years of anti-“World” rhetoric, self-reinforcing delusion about the Org’s importance, and a crippling fear of loss of authority over the membership made the kind of progressive reform you’re describing impossible.
just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
hoser - “…They have to bring the changes slowly…”
Yup, to keep from alienating older members, or appearing too willing to change with the (“Worldy”) times.
A longtime JW lifer I once knew even said as much.
And - back in the day - they could do that without significantly rocking the boat.
Now, though?
In the Information Age, with the current shitstorm(s) they’re dealing with?
Not so much.
sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.
they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.
one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.
looks like we can expect a kinder, gentler jehovah and jesus during the great tribulation.
the door will not be closed to all non jws at the start of the tribulation.
but will have time to repent after false religion is destroyed.
Not a chance.
To go authentically mainstream would be to give up the claim that they have God’s exclusive favor.
But without that, there’s virtually no incentive to even be a Jehovah’s Witness.
i didint search to see if its been talked about.
big news for jws sheeple , no more reporting.
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You know what this reminds me of? When they bumped the bookstudy.
That was unprecedented at the time, but eventually we found out it was because too many cases of child abuse had been happening in and around bookstudy environments…
…and that the Org’s charity status was under review because of it…
…i.e. their tax-exemption was at risk.
To avoid that without having to change their policies or have the real reasons publicized, they simply eliminated the environment.
Now… like the bookstudy, The D2D work has been - for intents and purposes - mandated…
…but recent intel has indicated that the number of kids who’ve been abused whilst being out in the D2D work has become uncomfortably high.
They need to keep witnessing records as a paper trail to maintain “charity” status…
…but…
…now they have to make it more authentically voluntary in an attempt to keep responsibility at arm’s length…
…or their tax-exemption may be even more at risk.
just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.
a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?
maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?
High levels of door-to-door activity were always equated with having The Truth…
…but Covid gave the rank-and-file a wonderful, sweet, and prolonged taste of Saturday morning freedom, and I’ll bet the projections got the leadership scared.
If growth is plateauing, court cases are being lost, and actual witnessing is now in decline…
…what’s that say about “Gods Exclusive Earthly Organization”?
