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  NPCs at the Kingdom Hall

  by Simon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in case you're unfamiliar with the acronym, an npc is a "non playable character" in a game.

  typically, they are kind of a placeholder that do set things rather than being controlled by another player or any kind of ai to vary what they do.

  they just follow a script.

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  Vidiot

  Funny thing about NPCs (IRL or video games)…

  …you know they’re there…

  …but good luck remembering anything about ‘em.

  😏
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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  Yup.

  There’s a difference between objective critical analysis and apologetics.

  Learning how to differentiate between the two is a useful skill for XJWs.
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  Barbara Anderson's important interview with Aussie activist Steven Unthank on Six Screens Mar. 2nd

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. scandals

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  Vidiot

  Why SixScreens / Rick Fearon?
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  Radical shake up

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.

  we know many mistakes have been made.

  we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.

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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  Vidiot

  It’s funny…

  …back in the 2000s and 2010s, there were suggestions in the literature that even some dutiful JWs might not make it through.

  Looking back, that was when I first started asking myself “well, where TF’s the incentive to even be a JW, then?”
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  How will history treat Judge Rutherford?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  mark jones writes:.

  how will history treat joseph rutherford?.

  like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.

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  Vidiot

  “How will history treat Judge Rutherford?”

  Relegated to a footnote, at best.
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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  Vidiot

  It’s a helluva quandary…

  …keep doubling down on all the old outdated hardline stances, and they can’t help but alienate more and more members (not to mention putting their tax-exemption at risk just when they’re experiencing serious financial difficulties)…

  …but…

  …keep watering things down the way they have, and before too long they’ll have effectively neutered all the things they held up as “proof” they had The Truth…

  …up to and including the claim of “God’s Exclusive Earthly Organization”.

  Either way, where’s the incentive to even be a Jehovah’s Witness?
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  Hailstone message AND everyone will be saved? Questions

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i’ve not been paying close attention to watchtower developments, but talking to a jw yesterday it occurred to me the society (yes, still use that term - old school) have been sending out mixed messages in recent years.

  from what i gather, a few years ago the gb announced that during the great tribulation jws would be required to preach a “hailstone message of judgement” which involved telling people it was too late for them to repent and they were definitely going to be destroyed.

  there were hints that this could be very soon, “any day now” preaching could stop and the hailstone message come in, kind of thing.

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  jhine - “…what exactly was the point of telling people that it was too late for them and they were going to die?”

  Schadenfreude.
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  Field Service

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.

  are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.

  what is the response?.

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  Vidiot

  It definitely feels like the hard-hitting-message and the eleventh-hour-salvation thing are at odds, or they’re waffling back and forth…

  …but there is one possibility.

  They may think that the “Hailstone” preaching will compel non-members (or former members) to get (re)join the fold at the last minute…

  …because (and this is, admittedly, kind of out there) they’re reserving the “Hailstone” message as a response if/when insolvency forces them to shut down.

  Sort of a “prop us back up or you’re Armageddon Toast” thing.
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  Field Service

  by Ding in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.

  are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.

  what is the response?.

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  Magnum - “…Jeffro, do you remember how we discussed that on this forum maybe ten or twelve years ago? A lot us really thought the org had hired a PR firm back then. The changes were so drastic that I remember one poster (I think it was anddon'tcallmeshirley) wrote ‘What's next - congregation softball teams?’…”

  Wait, yeah, that does ring a bell.

  Sorry, I know I’m not Jeffro. ☺️

  Magnum - “…I wish we could find some kind of evidence if they did hire a PR firm…”

  Its been confirmed by a couple of (alleged) insiders, along with verification that Top-Shelf was let go ‘cause he wouldn’t play ball.