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  New light on shunning?

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.

  he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .

  what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.

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  NotFormer - “…shunning may be part of its appeal to certain types…” (paraphrased)

  What types?

  Fucking sociopaths?

  😵‍💫
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  What has changed since January 2009?

  by KerryKing in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, i was df'd in jan 09. have not been in touch much with the jws apart from a few memorials i went to.. what with all the online presence they have nowadays, it just feels like a totally different religion.

  i have seen them with their tablets and phones at the hall, hardly any physical bibles or books at all, makes me think how ai (or the borg) could so easily change words and phrasing in the bible to suit them without making a big deal of it, like 'a new light' talk or wt article.

  doctrinally has much changed since 2009?.

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  Vidiot

  Marvel Studios got its start that year.

  It now reigns unchallenged.

  😏
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  Vidiot

  Wow!

  What a catch, amiright, ladies?

  😄
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  Sea Breeze - “…The imploding we are seeing is self-inflicted…”

  Agreed.

  When the WTS was young, the majority of members were there because they’d wanted to join.

  These days, it seems like the majority who stay do so because they’re afraid to leave.

  Which is not conducive to a healthy, sustainable membership, because eventually, most overcome that fear, for one reason or another.

  And once that happens…
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  Does The WT Keep Files On ExJW Activists?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.

  once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.

  (there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).

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  NotFormer - “…they don't seem to want hang around for conversation anymore, even at the rare times they turn up…”

  I think even the rank-and-file are starting to realize that the door-to-door ministry is, for all intents and purposes, defunct.
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  NotFormer - “****This is hyperbolic and sarcastic in nature.”

  *****So is this.

  (😏)
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  G.B.'s fantasy about "heavenly power"

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  matthew 20:9-12 - "when the 11th-hour men came, all believers in christ each received everlasting life on earth.

  came, they assumed that they would receive more and become immortal kings in heaven, but they too were paid with everlasting life on earth.

  11 on receiving it, they began to complain against the master of the house 12 and said, ‘these last men didn't run the org; still you made them equal to us.

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  Vidiot

  For a lot of old-school JWs (including GB members, I’m sure), Armageddon was their own personal supernatural revenge fantasy.

  Stands to reason that some ‘em might’ve found the prospect of a more active role at least somewhat appealing.
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  2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  1914 generation is long gone.

  1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

  i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

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  DesirousOfChange -
  

  Careful, Doc.

  Remember the Eagles reunion tour?

  😏
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  DesirousOfChange - “…Now you know that one has to ‘ring the sarcasm alert’ so you don't confuse some of the slow learners…”

  I use this:

  😏

  Seems to work most of the time.
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  Vidiot

  IMO, the recent attempts at appearing more mainstream do suggest that alleged insiders’ reports of outside consultants (and the related dismissal of Uncle Tony) are indeed legitimate.