In practice, it’s the same basic concept (albeit reserved for a select few)…
…they just didn’t/wouldn’t call it that, for the same reason they label virtually everything else different from “Christendom”
Contrarian for the sake of contrarianism. 🙄
when i was pioneering, i don't remember ever addressing the rapture question.
does anyone know how a jw would respond to this verse?
for the lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of god.
In practice, it’s the same basic concept (albeit reserved for a select few)…
…they just didn’t/wouldn’t call it that, for the same reason they label virtually everything else different from “Christendom”
Contrarian for the sake of contrarianism. 🙄
i still read on reddit.
(though no longer post) occasionally, i'll venture over to the ex-seventh day adventist (sda) sub and catch up a bit.
it's been a long time.
WingCommander - “…WT HQ is bleeding to death financially…”
Ironic, since transfusions have been such an issue with them for so long.
😏
since covid in france, especially in the countryside with lack of brothers, it was quite common that some sisters were using the computer at the back of the kingdom hall to manage zoom session.. i heard a rumor that new instructions, maybe a july letter, stated that this was reserved for male only, even unbaptised publishers, but no sister if there is at least a male available.
that would be a steps back and disappointment for these sisters.
last week i heard at my mom’s house how they were happy that this service was available for them, a proof that the org was moving forward.
Authoritarian regimes are all about subservience.
Someone’s gotta be on the lowest rung of the ladder…
…otherwise, what’s the point?
we have lonely old folks and even some not so old.. they know the gb are not who they claim to be.. but they stay in the congregation because they are lonely.
i wonder what percentage of jws this is the case, i would guess a lot.
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@ LongHairGal…
Whoops, my bad.
those of us who have deep roots into watchtower remember the shadowy whispers about "the evil slave" when we were kids.. for those that need to get up to speed: .
the internal crisis came to its full with the occurrence of an outstanding bible-predicted event, namely, the coming of jehovah’s “messenger,” christ jesus, to jehovah’s temple for judgment in the spring of 1918, to separate the “faithful and discreet slave” class from the “evil slave” group.
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KerryKing - “…They might have left it a bit late for that, all the recent changes are their own…”
Exactly my point.
Pin the label on him, and if they’re put to the question, spin the current “reforms” as a course-correction away from the mess he left.
Wouldn’t even be a lie, really.
(not that I think they’d actually do it)
i was thinking about the male children ( even unbaptized ) being placed ahead of the sisters.
; and i thought the jw were raising a bunch of misogynist.
would these kids not feel more important than their mothers let alone other women.
Whoops, almost forgot… smart, too.
we have lonely old folks and even some not so old.. they know the gb are not who they claim to be.. but they stay in the congregation because they are lonely.
i wonder what percentage of jws this is the case, i would guess a lot.
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Sea Breeze - “…it's really a lack of character and fear that keeps the whole charade going.”
A while back, someone here - Outlaw, I think - said that one of the things the Org was really effective at was inadvertently creating large groups of people skilled at maintaining pretence (paraphrasing, but not much).
It really stuck with me.
i still read on reddit.
(though no longer post) occasionally, i'll venture over to the ex-seventh day adventist (sda) sub and catch up a bit.
it's been a long time.
That, and loss of “charity” status, lest we forget.
those of us who have deep roots into watchtower remember the shadowy whispers about "the evil slave" when we were kids.. for those that need to get up to speed: .
the internal crisis came to its full with the occurrence of an outstanding bible-predicted event, namely, the coming of jehovah’s “messenger,” christ jesus, to jehovah’s temple for judgment in the spring of 1918, to separate the “faithful and discreet slave” class from the “evil slave” group.
(mal.
If anything, they should pin the “Evil Slave” label on Ted Jaracz.
It’s mostly his legacy that’s gotten ‘em into the trouble they’re in, IMO.
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it was the summer of '72.
i was 24 but had been the presiding overseer or congregation servant of a small congregation in the county seat of an arkansas county for about 3 years.. my regular pioneer wife of nearly four years was big and pregnant, with our attempts at birth control unsuccessful.. one of my wife's several bible studies was with a young woman named brenda whom my wife had encountered in door to door work.. brenda had two young children she could barely handle and was married to a very countryfied arkie named henry who worked as a chicken catcher, one of the most difficult jobs at the local chicken plant.. brenda eventually revealed that she'd been raised as a jw, but was never baptized, having left home to marry henry at age 14. she spoke of her family in texas, mentioning her mother and two older sisters, all jws she said.. one morning, just before the meeting for field service, we noticed a small car in kingdom hall parking lot.
my wife and i were parked to one side of the hall in our aluminum nashua house trailer.. two young women got out of the car and soon joined us for the meeting for service, identifying themselves as brenda's sisters from texas.. the two girls, ages 17 and 20, were distractingly beautiful, with the eldest decked out like a magnificent southern belle including hat and heels, her high-end clothing accentuating her very obvious curves.. with no one else showing up for field service, it ended up just the four of us in the car group with the two texas girls in the back seat.. starting our time at a not-at-home, the 20 year old asked if she could accompany me to "hear my presentation.
Stephane - “…That's where my imagination always stopped - my wife crying about something like that. An absolute, unbearable nightmare…”
I heard that.
Like I said before… most times, I didn’t even realize it if/when a woman was expressing an interest, but that kind of scenario still played out in my head from time to time, and it was always fucking horrible.
I guess that just means we’re decent(ish) guys. 🤷