DT - "By declaring themselves leaders in complete control of the organization, they have created a rival group composed of those who disagree."
Authoritarian leaders need enemies to aim their followers' hostilities at.
i believe that a coup is one of the governing body's worst nightmares.. imagine a splinter group led by anointed ones that draw off enough of a following to cause confusion about who is directing the organization.. this may be one of the reasons the governing body removed the special status of the anointed and placed it on an organizational arrangement that they just happen to occupy.. the irony is that this action is a coup in itself.
by declaring themselves leaders in complete control of the organization, they have created a rival group composed of those who disagree.
these people have no obligation to follow these newly self appointed leaders.
DT - "By declaring themselves leaders in complete control of the organization, they have created a rival group composed of those who disagree."
Authoritarian leaders need enemies to aim their followers' hostilities at.
both public editions of the watchtower and its bed-mate awake!
are due to halve in pages from 32 to 16. those hoping for a reprieve in the outpouring of crap will be sorely disappointed.
fifty percent fewer pages only means the same old crap is regurgitated less frequently.
Leolaia - "Bottom of the barrel..."
Bottom of the barrel writing... bottom of the barell MS and elder candidates... bottom of the barrel legal counsel...
Yeah, no way this'll ever turn out badly...
"strike while the iron is hot!
jehovah's witnesses are confused regarding the present "times and seasons", more brothers and sisters are resigning themselves to the fact, that they will probably die before jesus christ returns.
men and women are realizing things don't make sense, yet they continue to put their heads down and remain loyal to "men", not jehovah god.
OnTheWayOut - "My theory is they don't have enough brothers and they don't want to start rejecting men for a history of various things like child molestation, viewing pornography, being DF'ed in the past."
Scraping the bottom of the barrel?
Reminds me of a story told here last year about a couple elders calling on a DFed guy (former elder?), and "encouraging" him to pursue reinstatement with the possibility of elderly advancement in the near future afterwards.
"strike while the iron is hot!
jehovah's witnesses are confused regarding the present "times and seasons", more brothers and sisters are resigning themselves to the fact, that they will probably die before jesus christ returns.
men and women are realizing things don't make sense, yet they continue to put their heads down and remain loyal to "men", not jehovah god.
JakeM2012 - "What I believe is re-damdiculous is the stubborn attitude to continue using a known pediphile. I've been in e-meetings where elders can come up with every reason in the world to not appoint someone from the guy wears white socks to his bad breath."
It's not about whether a man is genuinely qualified or unqualified to hold a leadership position.
It's about loyalty.
If said "known pedophile" is nevertheless a loyal company man, his chances are better than, say, an individual with actual leadership skills, but is more of an out-of-box thinker.
both public editions of the watchtower and its bed-mate awake!
are due to halve in pages from 32 to 16. those hoping for a reprieve in the outpouring of crap will be sorely disappointed.
fifty percent fewer pages only means the same old crap is regurgitated less frequently.
Both the WT and Awake?
i need a break from the jw-xmas noo-lite stuff ....... .
today my crush was on tv and a quick blush came to my face as i remembered all the silliness i did to run into him when he was attending jr. college near my grandparents....sigh.... so who was yours?
did your parents highly discourage/disapprove such?.
Michelle Pfeiffer
or do you think the sheeple will just follow the gb's words without question?.
It'll shave off a few more, just like the "generation" adjustments of 1995 and 2010, Sparlock, the deafsterbation video, reinforcement of the "2 witness" rule...
For a long time now, I've suspected that all of these things are to steadily and deliberately cull the herd of any "lukewarms".
minimus - "They would rather have a strong small core of believers than a lot of wishy-washy ones."
They'd still be able to maintain whatever lifestyle they have with that small strong core if/when they lost the majority to the passage of time, and they'd simply remind the remaining devout R&F of the "love of the greater number cooling off" prediction.
Putting their collective foot down regarding the 2-witness rule serves another purpose, too; they'll easily be able to convince the remaining devout R&F (who can't bear to acknowledge that the pedo problem is as big as it is, 'cause it's too horrible) that it's really persecution from Satan's world for standing firm for a "Biblical" requirement.
It's frustrating for those who want the WTS to crash and burn, but I think we'll have to settle for slow extinction.
and yes i`m familiar with the scriptures that say women should know their place , cant teach , have a head covering if they, do when no capable male is present etc.etc.. yet they can become immortal and rule with christ as an equal with men for a thousand years ?.
are their inconsistincies here that prevent women from being part of the faithful & discreet slave class ?
maybe the women who claim to be of the annointed need to be more vocal and stand up for their rights.
snare&racket - "How can they rule as kings and priests in heaven, but only be allowed to bind old books on earth?"
In heaven, they are "...as angels...neither male nor female..."?
Yeah, it's a double standard.
tootired2care - "After reading Crisis of Conscience, and getting a glimpse into how the GB does things behind the scenes, of this I have no doubt."
I'm starting to think you may be right:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/239545/5/2012-annual-meeting-notes#4508464
sorry for the wait guys.... .
part one.
moorse had the opening comments talked about historic annual meetings.. .
sir82 - "...the next step will be to say that the count of "144,000" only applies to the top-ranking dudes, and the rest of the "anointed", while a minority of JWs, are an unnumbered 'little flock'...
This will (1) eliminate the embarrassment of the skyrocketing count of memorial partakers each year (those new partakers are part of the unnumbered "little flock" but not part of the "FDS"), and (2) finally and completely marginalize the "non-approved" anointed."
Huh.
You know, it would also give the subtle appearance of admitting to a mistake in the WTS's earlier interpretation (thusly saving face by appearing humble), while futher consolidating their present authority, as though the 8 of them were among the last (if not the very last) of the "leadership class" of the anointed. This would also help reinforce that the End absolutely has to be super close; after all, if GB2.0 is the very last of the "leadership class", how much longer can it actually be?
I'm starting to revise my opinion; maybe they are clever and cunning (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/239286/10/2012-Annual-Meeting)...