Too much of a plug (for just another fundagelical church) for my taste, TJ.
Sorry.
my blood is boiling, i hate this religion.
my mom is 68 years old and lives in a senior citizen complex.
there are a lot of activities and parties and such that the residents participate in.
Too much of a plug (for just another fundagelical church) for my taste, TJ.
Sorry.
i proudly present the father of still thinking jws at jwn.
he is a former vietnam vet and he is also the most thinkingest person on earth!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9kis8u46e.
Let's see; "thinkingest", "happifying"... any others?
BTW, I don't have the patience to watch videos, but I really like reading Cedars' stuff.
a friend from australia's first "ministerial training school" was excited to go to asia as a missionary....only to return in disgrace!!!
the government lets them stay if they become "english teachers" and except a part-time job for a salary {which is generous}.
bethel told him that the money he earns on the side while a missionary belongs to them!!
I had no idea "YHWH" was pronounced "ma-mon".
I guess you learn a new thing every day.
i think it's iran.. they're straight up crazy wackos whos main goal is to create caliphate, world under one islamic law.
they actually believe they can accomplish this by causing great tribulation themselves with nuclear attack.. according to their belief, when theres great tribulation in the world, allah will come down and destroy non-muslims and will bring paradise.
so if they blow up nuke, it will speed up the process.
IMHO - "It's the EU."
My late father though that might be the case.
i think it's iran.. they're straight up crazy wackos whos main goal is to create caliphate, world under one islamic law.
they actually believe they can accomplish this by causing great tribulation themselves with nuclear attack.. according to their belief, when theres great tribulation in the world, allah will come down and destroy non-muslims and will bring paradise.
so if they blow up nuke, it will speed up the process.
sparki - "I havent read anything from watchtower about this."
That's because for decades, the WTS claimed the "King of the North" was Soviet Russia, which (unexpectedly for them) collapsed in the early 90s, and no superpower since the USSR has had enough clout on the global political scene to justifiably replace the "King of the North" in Fred Franz's eschatology.
BTW, the WTS also claimed that the UN was the "Wild Beast" that would destroy "Babylon the Great", the "world empire of false religion". Which is interesting, considering that the UN Security Council doesn't even seem capable of enforcing resolutions to defend religious freedoms (in the developing world, anyway), let alone marshaling a global campaign to repress it; an action that would almost certainly be quashed by any of the major superpowers with legal veto authority, anyway.
I've said all this before, but basically, the WTS subscribes to a decades-old Cold-War-Era-centric End-Times script, in which the primary villains are now either virtually powerless or - for all intents and purposes - nonexistent.
And they're kind of stuck with it; they can't really give it a rewrite or even a polish, since Franz left no eschatalogical protege or successor, and any action would also be tantamount to admitting the previous "understanding" was all bullshi... er, "Old Light" (not that really seems to faze the hard-core R&F).
i was listening this morning to the experience of sonia "sunny" jacobs, who was on death row for a long time, until her case was properly dealt with.. she explained that upon leaving prison after all those years it was amazing !
"the colours!
" she said, in prison all is grey or black , but outside in the free world, so many colours!.
Phizzy - "Is leaving the JW's like release from Prison?"
A minimum-security (idealogical) prison (at least for me), but yes.
a study was recently conducted with sheep outfitted with transmitters.
a "predator" was circling the flock and the researchers found that the sheep tended to shove the weaker ones to the outer fringes and the stronger ones went to the center.
real nice.... boy, i could have used that while i was giving public talks!
Desirous of Change - "JWs shoot sacrifice their wounded."
All authoritarian high-control groups do; it's one of their defining characteristics.
I find it interesting that most fundagelical Christian churches refers to their memberships as "sheep"...
Sheep cull the weak, and sacrifice them to predators in preferance of the overall herd.
Sheep sometimes strip an area bare of virtually all edible vegetation and then simply move on.
Sheep are protected by shepherds...
...until they are inevitably sheared and/or butchered and eaten.
Except for males, which get to do whatever they want (to whichever female they want), as long as they stay inside the fence.
Hell, it seems the top predators of the world (eagles, wolves, lions, etc.) take better care of each other than sheep.
well it's been about 8 months since my final wake up.
as some may remember for my intro thread, i panicked and was way too aggressive at first with telling my wife all about this scam we're a part of.
she freaked, thinking satan had me for sure.
Unfortunately, no one can told with the WTS truly is.
You have to see it for yourself.
OnTheWayOut - "When this remarkable feat is accomplished, you get a virtual fob for your keychain."
Oooooooo... shiny.
rip van winkle - "I hope the previous 799 were better than this."
Nah, not really.
Feel free to refute that, though.