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  JWs near of losing their status a religious organization in Norway

  by Festus in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  last spring norweigian state refused to give public contribution to jws (religious organisations can apply that in norway and previously wtbs has been granted that).

  the decision was caused because of practise of disfellowshpiping.. now there is a new twist.. 25.10.2022 authorites in norway send a letter to wtbs and told them that they have four weeks to fix that practise.

  if they don't do that they will loose their status as a religiouse organisation.. intrestingly jws did not "understand" what authorites meant by that and requested more time.. how can they not understand?

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  Vidiot

  They haven’t got much legitimate reason for complaint, either; all they’ll really lose is tax-exemption.

  Boo-fucking-hoo.

  Unless…

  …their financial status is at risk without it.

  😏
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  Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

  by solameguy12 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

  but i don’t want to ask them my question.

  but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

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  Vidiot

  Yup.

  Once more, for the newbies, lurkers, and trolls…

  …if you have to cheat to defend your beliefs, your beliefs don’t deserve to be defended.
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  Babylon the Great

  by Godlyman in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?

  inquiring minds want to know .

  estephan.

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  Vidiot

  Fred Franz’ old Cold-War-centric End Times narrative was too specific for its own good; there just wasn’t enough wiggle room for the finer details if current events didn’t play out according to the script.

  The Org seems to be stuck with it, though, ‘cause there’s no one left at WTHQ with the creative and narrative chops to give it a proper 21st-Century overhaul.

  At this point, all they can really do is soft-pitch the weirder or more implausible bits and hope it still sticks.
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  How things are in JW land right now?

  by Hellothere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  any news about how going back to kingdom halls and door to door ministry going right now?

  are there many people at meetings and meetings before going out in service as congregation?.

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  Vidiot

  Weird as fuck.
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  That wife who was raped at Watchtower Farms; can seek justice, starting tomorrow.

  by was a new boy in

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  2. scandals

  i recall reading here that a wife was raped at watchtower farms some years ago (can't find it here anymore) by a another bethelite wearing a red flannel shirt.

  they found his shirt and booted him.. 'hundreds of new york women are about to sue alleged rapists (and enablers) under a revolutionary new law.

  watch out, donald trump.. .

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  Vidiot

  Beth Sarim- “…The Borg has stooped to the point of gathering wills and testaments, air miles, bonds and inheritances and what not…”

  Almost has a vibe of desperation, doesn’t it?

  Gosh, I wonder why? 😏
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  Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.

  one that comes to mind is.

  1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.

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  Vidiot

  Thanks to Heaven’s Gate, the Hare Krishnas, and 80s Satanic panic, the “cult” label’s become too overused, I think.

  I prefer the term “authoritarian high-control group”.

  More accurate, and way harder to refute, IMO.
  
  
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  Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

  by solameguy12 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

  but i don’t want to ask them my question.

  but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

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  Vidiot

  It’s the same reason they also reject any suggestion of secular history that pre-dates the Bible, the possibility of intelligent extraterrestrial life, and - particularly - the existence of other, genetically distinct of species of hominids.

  None of those things are compatible with a Genesis-as-literal-history-based worldview.
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  Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

  by solameguy12 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

  but i don’t want to ask them my question.

  but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

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  Vidiot

  Sea Breeze - “The WT does not teach a literal Genesis history.”

  You know damn well I’m talking about the Eden narrative.

  Christian fundamentalists - the Watchtower Society included - reject evolution, not because it’s “unproven”, “just a theory”, or even scientifically implausible.

  They reject it because if it’s true, the Eden account can’t be literal history…

  …therefore, Adam and Eve weren’t actual real people, therefore the “Original Sin” (whatever one thinks it is) didn’t actually happen, therefore Jesus’ “ransom sacrifice” wasn’t necessary…

  …therefore - from their POV - their understanding of Christianity’s actual purpose and legitimacy is fundamentally undermined.

  And that is unacceptable to them.
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  Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

  by solameguy12 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

  but i don’t want to ask them my question.

  but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

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  Vidiot

  And they definitely can’t come right out and bluntly say “oops, we were wrong”.

  Doing so would too deeply undermine their claims of God’s exclusive favour.
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  Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.

  by solameguy12 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.

  but i don’t want to ask them my question.

  but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?

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  Vidiot

  The Org can never budge on evolution.

  Genesis-as-literal-history is too deeply baked into WT cosmology.