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  Does The WT Keep Files On ExJW Activists?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.

  once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.

  (there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).

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  Vidiot

  NotFormer - “…they don't seem to want hang around for conversation anymore, even at the rare times they turn up…”

  I think even the rank-and-file are starting to realize that the door-to-door ministry is, for all intents and purposes, defunct.
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  NotFormer - “****This is hyperbolic and sarcastic in nature.”

  *****So is this.

  (😏)
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  G.B.'s fantasy about "heavenly power"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  matthew 20:9-12 - "when the 11th-hour men came, all believers in christ each received everlasting life on earth.

  came, they assumed that they would receive more and become immortal kings in heaven, but they too were paid with everlasting life on earth.

  11 on receiving it, they began to complain against the master of the house 12 and said, ‘these last men didn't run the org; still you made them equal to us.

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  Vidiot

  For a lot of old-school JWs (including GB members, I’m sure), Armageddon was their own personal supernatural revenge fantasy.

  Stands to reason that some ‘em might’ve found the prospect of a more active role at least somewhat appealing.
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  2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  1914 generation is long gone.

  1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

  i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

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  Vidiot

  DesirousOfChange -
  

  Careful, Doc.

  Remember the Eagles reunion tour?

  😏
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  DesirousOfChange - “…Now you know that one has to ‘ring the sarcasm alert’ so you don't confuse some of the slow learners…”

  I use this:

  😏

  Seems to work most of the time.
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  Internal Watchtower Statistics Re: Disfellowshipping and Shunning

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.

  or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.

  i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.

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  Vidiot

  IMO, the recent attempts at appearing more mainstream do suggest that alleged insiders’ reports of outside consultants (and the related dismissal of Uncle Tony) are indeed legitimate.
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  ARTICLE: Jehovah’s Witnesses investing more than $50M on Woodbury project

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.

  long island business news.

  march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.

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  Vidiot

  At this rate, they’ll have all of Warwick county before too long, and “Watchtowistan” will be an actual, real thing, solely populated by the Branch Jehovians.

  Every household will have an actual Armageddon bunker instead of a basement, with a dedicated hardline intranet connection to Warwick HQ, so they can access JW-dot-org without needing any “worldy” ISPs.

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  NORWAY Verdict : The Aftermath

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.

  few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.

  he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.

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  Vidiot

  @ Beth…

  They only care about their “public” image insomuch as it affects their bottom line.
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  Does The WT Keep Files On ExJW Activists?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.

  once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.

  (there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).

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  Vidiot

  They do make it easy for us, don’t they?

  😏
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  NORWAY Verdict : The Aftermath

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.

  few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.

  he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.

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  Vidiot

  I thought the article did a decent job clarifying that (unlike in Russia) JWs in Norway are perfectly free to believe and practice their faith as they please…

  …they simply can’t do it on the taxpayer’s dime, anymore.

  The Org’ll be walking a real fine line if they try and spin this for the rank-and-file…

  …too much focus on it and still-ins might start asking why the WTS would expend so much time and effort just to keep sucking on the teats of Satan’s World (especially this close to The End).

  ‘Course, we all know why… 😏