does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.
or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.
i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.
Sea Breeze - “…The imploding we are seeing is self-inflicted…”
Agreed.
When the WTS was young, the majority of members were there because they’d wanted to join.
These days, it seems like the majority who stay do so because they’re afraid to leave.
Which is not conducive to a healthy, sustainable membership, because eventually, most overcome that fear, for one reason or another.
And once that happens…
it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.
once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.
(there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).
NotFormer - “…they don't seem to want hang around for conversation anymore, even at the rare times they turn up…”
I think even the rank-and-file are starting to realize that the door-to-door ministry is, for all intents and purposes, defunct.
does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.
or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.
i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.
NotFormer - “****This is hyperbolic and sarcastic in nature.”
*****So is this.
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matthew 20:9-12 - "when the 11th-hour men came, all believers in christ each received everlasting life on earth.
came, they assumed that they would receive more and become immortal kings in heaven, but they too were paid with everlasting life on earth.
11 on receiving it, they began to complain against the master of the house 12 and said, ‘these last men didn't run the org; still you made them equal to us.
For a lot of old-school JWs (including GB members, I’m sure), Armageddon was their own personal supernatural revenge fantasy.
Stands to reason that some ‘em might’ve found the prospect of a more active role at least somewhat appealing.
1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
DesirousOfChange -
Careful, Doc.
Remember the Eagles reunion tour?
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does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.
or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.
i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.
DesirousOfChange - “…Now you know that one has to ‘ring the sarcasm alert’ so you don't confuse some of the slow learners…”
I use this:
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Seems to work most of the time.
does the wt have a person/department/section tasked with compiling data and analysing it statistically.
or have they started doing something like that now that they are hiring external consultancies?.
i ask the question because i'm wondering if such studies and statistical analysis would show any link between the harshness of the disfellowshipping policy as it is applied and the dropout rate of people within the organisation who have just had enough.. in previous threads it has been pointed out that the old approach isn't effective any more.
https://libn.com/2024/03/04/jehovahs-witnesses-investing-more-than-50m-on-woodbury-project/.
long island business news.
march 4, 2024. the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses, which bought the former geico property in woodbury for $27 million in dec. 2022, plans to spend at least another $23 million to build an assembly hall and two support buildings on about half of the site.
At this rate, they’ll have all of Warwick county before too long, and “Watchtowistan” will be an actual, real thing, solely populated by the Branch Jehovians.
Every household will have an actual Armageddon bunker instead of a basement, with a dedicated hardline intranet connection to Warwick HQ, so they can access JW-dot-org without needing any “worldy” ISPs.
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https://www.jwupdates.com/post/watchtower-will-take-norwegian-defeat-to-echr.
few norwegian religious communities need to worry after the jehovah's witnesses verdict, according to legal expert vibeke blaker strand.
he has pointed out that it is particularly serious to deprive a religious community of its registration.
@ Beth…
They only care about their “public” image insomuch as it affects their bottom line.
it occurred to me that the wt, if they can identify the activists that are currently campaigning against them, would have a lot of ability to compile detailed dossiers on them.
once identified, the elders of the appropriate congregation could be asked to forward copies of all their membership details held locally.. would they do that, and do such dossiers exist?.
(there are probably data collection rules governing such things in a lot of countries, but by no stretch of the imagination could the wt be considered a good corporate citizen).
They do make it easy for us, don’t they?
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