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Life everlasting and freedom of the sons of god

by blownaway in

what is the craziest thing in the book life ever lasting and freedom of the sons of god 1966 book?.

Life everlasting and freedom of the sons of god

by blownaway in

what is the craziest thing in the book life ever lasting and freedom of the sons of god 1966 book?.

krismalone

Pages 28 & 29 contain the evidence that the Watchtower predicted 1975 as the end.

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Two witness rule: Stop using it, its not working on JWs!

by StephaneLaliberte in

most jws don't see this as a problem.

they reason that.

just like the jws, the police will not convict a pedophile over the story of one victim alone, there must be collaborative evidence.

krismalone

I completely agree with the OP. I posted the same reasons a while back on why the 2 witness rule is not worth attacking.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6203461516394496/why-2-witnesses-rule-worth-attacking-bark

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Circuit Overseer Meets with Elders and Ministerial Servants

by accesible in

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¿necesitan los demás bosquejos?.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1dvhuodkcahf6efu2xqxfk6o8ambqe5rm.

krismalone

Ticketed for dui???

What police dept will "ticket" someone for dui and just let him continue driving home? They would be arrested and the car impounded. Don't the GB know this?!!

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I can’t find it!

by Truth and Justice in

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i need some serious help on something that i read here on this board, and so i am going to do my best to explain what i’m looking for.

i need this, so i can’t share with my brother who is still in.. it has to do with the organization saying in affect that each member in the congregation has the right to decide for themselves what they choose to do, (that is whether they choose to be apart of the organization without repercussions) and that they would not think of interfering with our own conscience, and that if they chose otherwise that it would be their own decision.. now some might think that the society wouldn’t write something like that, but they did, and i read it, and after reading it, i said to myself “they don’t follow this, they never have.” .

if you could locate this for me, i would be very grateful!.

krismalone

Proclaimers page. 628 - That section is talking about "apostates" and it gives examples of prominent persons in the WT that raised troubles for the Borg.

At the end of the page it states that these ones (apostates, troublemakers) certainly had the right to believe in private whatever they wanted to. But the problem lies in TALKING to others or spreading your ideas that are against the WT Corporation that makes a person guilty of causing divisions.

That paragraph can save you from being disfellowshipped even if you tell elders in their face that the WT is a cult and the Governing Body are deceitful, delusional, conmen. As long as you don't go around talking to others about your contrary beliefs.

Freedom of speech is taken away from the JW members.

There was a brief time circa 1980 (Raymond Franz responsible for this) where the WT sent letters to elders and traveling overseers stating that anyone who holds personal beliefs contrary to the Cult would need to be disfellowshipped even if they didn't promote or talk about those beliefs to others. A copy of this letter is in Crisis of Conscience.

Hope this helps.

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Circuit Overseer Pensions and the Implications

by AlanF in

i just learned that the watchtower society has instituted a pension plan of sorts for circuit overseers.

this is a big change.. previous to this new plan, the various kinds of "traveling overseers" were pretty much on their own when they retired from the traveling work.

in a few cases, such men were invited to live out their lives in bethel, but in most cases they simply went back to being normal rank and file members who had to fend for themselves financially.. i can only speculate that the reason for this change was that the society has been having difficulty getting elders to become circuit overseers.

krismalone

I had a C.O. friend that told me he receives an average of $800.00 a week from green handshakes tax free. Add to that a free apartment, cable, meals, vacations paid by elder brown nosers, new car, gas card, healthcare...it's a good life. All you have to do is sacrifice your humanity, brain and conscience.

It's a totally different story for C.O.'s in third world countries though.

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The strange case of Gerrit Losch

by Gorbatchov in

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one of the recent molest cases had a signed declaration of gerrit losch, stating he has no relation with watchtower and that he has no control over watchtower and he does not answer to watchtower.. this month he is hosting the watchtower broadcasting show, on a watchtower media chanel, with a watchtower president starring as co-host, with statements, media and music that have intellectual ownership and copyright by watchtower.. gerrit is asking on broadcasting for respect for “the slave”, just like jehova and jesus respect “the slave” and will even reward them.. are the writers of the statement too stupid to see the correlation between teaching and practicing?.

these man are proven liars.. how can hold this firewall stand?

it’s so thin.. a judge can see this mismach isn’t it??.

krismalone

This is the same Gerritt Loesch that did a broadcast several years ago about speaking the truth and not making statements that would give the wrong impression to others. This is another example of do as we say but not what we do.

Justice and Truth are thrown out of the window the moment that it undermines their authority or exposes them as deceitful con men.

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