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  CO's comments about loved ones vs. JW.ORG

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this information is from a friends co visit.

  enjoy.. jw.org faq's.

  do you feel that you are the only people who will be saved?00:0000:00. no.

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  whathappened

  Yes, Jehovah only wants to save those who have preached false scriptural interpretations from door to door, mindlessly, to the very end. He especially loves those who shun those who no longer or never believed the lies.
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  With the July 15 WT approaching, would this be the ideal opportunity to start an ACTIVELY VOCAL fade?

  by Captain Blithering in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  by 'actively vocal', i do not mean openly criticising the articles and pointing out the inconsistencies or flipflops (not footwear, reversals).

  i do mean letting people know that you're finding it hard to understand the new truth, and the fact that there is therefore old truth, or falsities, (is that a word?

  it is now), therefore if there are falsehoods (that's the word, of course), then that puts into doubt the extent of jah's involvement in the preparation/dissemination of it all... (and making it clear you're not saying they aren't gods prophets on earth, just that you're not sure, don't know).. the reason i ask is cos i'm finding it hard to completely fade without an external reason.

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  whathappened

  Captain, I don't believe I have welcomed you yet.

  I recommend you say something to the effect that you have been taking your issues (which will remain vague) to Jehovah in prayer, that you would hate to discuss it with anyone, because you don't want to cause divisions in the congregation. When pressed, say you just can't talk about it. Then fade, fade, fade. Let your wife see you studying the the Bible and the November 2013 Watchtower study edition with a concerned yet perplexed look, yet say nothing.
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  What would it take for YOU to come back?

  by noonehome in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  whathappened

  I have determined that a loving, reasonable god would not destroy someone because they refused to be associated with a religion that:

  propagated false teachings for decades upon decades

  falsely predicted Armageddon a number of times

  was responsible for thousand of needless deaths of its members by forbidding blood transfusions, tranplants and other medical procedures such as vaccinations

  published their own translation of the Bible to back up their interpretation of the scriptures

  believes that God is capable of killing Billions of innocent people because Adam and Eve ate a piece of fruit thousands of years ago

  and continues to change doctrine back and forth, back and forth

  So NO, I'm never going back.
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  Is The IRS Targeting Religious Non Profits ?(watch out watchtower)

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://secular.org/news/atheists-say-irs-not-doing-enough-hold-churches-accountable.

  washington, dcthe secular coalition for america today sent a letter to the white house, pointing out additional internal revenue service failings, including neglecting to investigate churches and religious charities that engage in politicking from the pulpit.. in its letter, the secular coalition said religious charities have been flaunting their flagrant disregard for [irs] laws for years.

  over 1600 pastors participated in last years pulpit freedom sunday, where pastors not only violated the law by lobbying and endorsing candidates, but filmed their illegal actions and mailed them to the irs.. the secular coalitions letter comes on the heel of another letter sent to the white house by franklin graham earlier this week, asserting that the irs is improperly targeting religious charities for investigation, including the billy graham evangelistic association.

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  whathappened

  I think they should lose their tax exempt status because they do not provide any service to the public. They are a cult who has very publicly falsely predicted the end at least 3 times. They demand that people die rather than get a blood transfusion, they forbid voting and serving in the military. They do no charitable work for the community. They are a hate organization that encourages shunning and break up families. They predict the destruction of the UN and all governments.
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  To our fading and in-suffering friends, status report please

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you're still in for the sake of others, how's it going?

  what specific plan are you working on to get your loved ones out so you can leave, too?

  how is that plan progressing?

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  whathappened

  Let's get some more updates. These are very inspiring stories and may help the new ones here on the forum.

  Me? I am going on 2 1/2 years without attending any meetings or service. The rumor is that I am an apostate and will not be coming back. I am avoided like the plague. No elders ever call me, no sisters ever call, no one acknowledges me when they see me in public.

  My daughter and son in law who are in will allow me to come visit them but I am not allowed to spend the night (I live out of town so I have to get a hotel room). As long as I do not talk bad about the beloved Watchtower Society, they say they will not cut me off. My nephew who is an elder has no contact with me or his poor mother, who is also successfully faded. I do not anticipate any trouble nor do I plan on making any. I do try to enlighten all who will listen about the dangers of this cult, commonly known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
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  My Grammy is dying....

  by diana netherton in

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  2. current

  she's in her last stages of luekemia.

  she fell a few days ago and she's going downhill.

  quickly.

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  whathappened

  Sorry your grandmother is so very ill. She sounds like a loving woman and grandmother.

  Want a Revolution: Sorry for your loss as well.
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  Circuit Overseer sign up sheet

  by A question in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  everyone knows that people sign up to have the co over for lunch wed. through fri. but in your area, did they (even privately, outside of a sign up sheet) also invite him over sometimes for dinner as well, at all?

  is this something that varies by co?.

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  whathappened

  We used to go up and shake the CO's hand and have money in our palms. We also would give his wife money too, knowing she must be giving up a normal life and all.

  Now I am sorry I gave any of them a dime. They just help perpetuate one lie after another.
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  The Governing Body's Has Appointed Itself Faithful and Discreet Slave By A Heavy Dose Of Bias And Tremendous Leaps In Logic

  by frankiespeakin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not to mention the fact that they run a printing corporation and do not need to consult with any committee of bible scholars, they just merely have to say it's so or simply say it's an idea they "{love}" and it becomes fact.

  any reason they give must be accepted by the rank and file under the painful threat of being disfellowshipped for being an appostate.. .

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  whathappened

  My mother was naive also, Roberta. She believed up until right before she died.
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  Governing Body on a roll, claiming more territory in spiritual paradise?

  by prologos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as reported from a recent co visit talk: .

  the man with the inkhorn is picturing the governing body, who has the task of marking people for salvation ezek.

  9:2,4.. it used to be christ's brothers, the remnant, the anointed, and you better help them* or be a goat as per the math:25 judgement.

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  whathappened

  One preposturous scriptural interpretation after another. They just keep pumping them out. They are amazing!
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  A YouTube Video About Watctower's 1975 Biggest Lie of the Century

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxnvuqtszmy

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  whathappened

  Unfortunately, it isn't in English and I am a typical American who only speaks English.